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Here is the transcript to today’s episode:
Speaker 1: (00:00)
How long will it take before magic mushrooms really start working and I feel better, I feel back the way I should feel? Well, this is the most commonly asked question I get, or at least one of the very most commonly asked questions. And we’re gonna talk about that right now.
Speaker 2: (00:31)
Speaker 1: (00:33)
Hey there. Welcome back to Microdose You. Yeah, I’m Dr. Dave. Thank you so much for being with me. I really appreciate you. This, there’s a special episode for, um, you guys listening to my audio podcast. Every once in a while, I’m gonna throw in a special, it’s gonna be a little bit longer than what we, where we normally go. And I’ve got a lot of great information for you. And yes, um, among the most commonly asked questions, this is one of them. How long will it take before I see it start feeling better? Or how long did it take you Dr. Day before you started feeling better? And I will say this, So, um, this is not medical advice and a lot of this, I’m just sharing my own journey, but it doesn’t really matter how long it took me because everybody’s different. Everybody feels different.
Speaker 1: (01:15)
If you give somebody, or you give a group of people, let’s say a hundred people, the the same medication and the same dose at the same time, um, it will affect many people very differently. So there’s not one rule or not one thing I can tell you that say, Okay, you are definitely gonna feel better by day 14. Um, now I just made that one up, so don’t hold me to that. But, but, um, it, it, it really, it really does depend, and I wanna just share this with you right from the start. If you have not listened to my podcast episode called The Absolute Beginner’s Guide to Microdosing Magic Mushrooms, I, I would really like you to go listen to that as soon as you finish listening to this one, because it’s one of the most important and comprehensive podcast episodes I’ve ever made.
Speaker 1: (02:03)
And almost every single day I hear questions such as, Well, how much should I start with how much, how many grams or how many milligrams of magic mushrooms should I start? I’ve never done this before. It’s super important. There’s, I will tell you this, there’s not just one dose that you could say, everybody just start with this and you’re gonna be fine. So I go about systematically explaining what you should start with, but then how to evaluate to see, um, if and when you need to raise it and what you need to look for and things like that. So it’s very, very important. And I’m gonna rec recommend you listen to that, uh, the Absolute Beginner’s Guide to Microdosing Magic Mushrooms. But back to the original question, how long will it take before you start feeling better? So one thing I wanna share with you, and this is, this is really important, and I want you to really try to understand this.
Speaker 1: (02:59)
You did not start feeling bad in one day or in one week. Now, whatever you may have, what, uh, uh, not episode, what issues you might have. Um, be it, be it depression or anxiety or, uh, T s D or some type of maybe like eating disorder or, uh, uh, social anxiety or what, you know, the list is very long. You be, um, but, but for, but for one reason or another, you found yourself here. And likely, unless you’re just super, super curious about this topic, likely you are hurting in some way. You’ve got something going on, and probably it’s some form of depression and or anxiety. That’s the most common reason people gravitate to listen to me and to look into microdosing. Now again, there could be a million other reasons, but that’s the most common. And you, I will say, not only will they help you, but you’ll, you’ll get a lot of other benefits as well.
Speaker 1: (04:03)
You’ll just have a, a, a, a different outlook on, on life and what you see around you in the world and, and the universe. And, and it sounds kind of cheesy and maybe like new agey, but, but you really will have a different outlook. And probably, and, and this is a good thing, a, a different outlook than your friends who have never used magic mushrooms. I, now, I, I will tell you, I see things totally differently. I look at life differently. Uh, my days are very different in a, in a very, very good way. Really good way. But the original question, How long will all this take until I feel better? So again, getting back to my original thing, it, it didn’t happen overnight. It likely took year. You don’t realize this, but it likely took years and years and years of things going on in your life and in your body to get you to where you are now.
Speaker 1: (04:57)
So it may not be a quick fix. Now, there are some people that say, the first time I microdosed I started feeling better. And it was just, and it went, got better from there. It just kept getting better. And, and I will tell you, I am one of those people. I’ve been microdosing for one and a half years, and I can still remember the very first time I took a microdose, um, that day. And again, I say I, I do want to make this clear. It, it could have been some type of placebo effect, but I’ll take it. Cause I felt better. I felt better like right away that day. Now, I, I didn’t feel that I was like cured, but I felt better. I felt a lot better. And what that means is that my, if you can picture like a line on a graph.
Speaker 1: (05:47)
So from day one, after I microdose started getting a little better, so the graph starts going a little higher, higher, higher, day to day, better, better, better. Um, and then fast forward to one and a half years, I’m like, my line, or my point is, is way up there, way up there compared to where I started, I was able to get off of my, um, antidepressant. I was able to get off my occasional use of, um, benzo, cuz sometimes the antidepressant just didn’t cut it. And I’d have to take a benzo because that’s the only way I could really feel like acceptable during a day. So I was able to get off the benzo pretty quickly. And then nine months later I started weaning off of my antidepressant. Cuz I just felt really, really, really good. And my, again, thinking about it as a graph, I’m, I’m making signals with my hands, but you can’t see my hands be, this is audio.
Speaker 1: (06:39)
The graph, the chart is getting better, better, better, better, better, better going up, up, up, up, up. Now on the other hand, there are some people that start microdosing and they really don’t feel a big change right away. Now, some people, if that’s the case or just quitters, they just, This isn’t working, I’m gonna stop. I don’t recommend that because again, life is not about easy, quick fixes. Life is, it’s not real life. When you see people doing things and, and it looks like they’re like super successful or wealthy or they lost weight, um, you think they did it overnight. But in most cases now, there are some exceptions, but in most cases people have to work long and hard and not give up to get to where they want to be. And microdosing is not an exception. So your graph could be kind of like flatline for a little while.
Speaker 1: (07:35)
Maybe there’s not a difference, I’m just making this up. It maybe for the first month, there’s not a big difference. Maybe it just kind of goes on and on and you’re still taking your, your medication, whatever that might be, um, along with your microdosing. But you don’t really see much of a difference. And your line is straight, straight, straight, straight, straight. But then there comes a point where, again, making this up, but let’s say one month later or two months later, you, something kicks in, you say, Wow, I’m really starting to feel better. And so then picture the graph, it starts going up. Uh, it, it was flat for a long time, but then it starts going up, up, up and better and better. And then over time it’s really better. Your graph is way up there. Now that’s not to say there couldn’t be, Somebody asked me, I think I did a livestream last night actually, and somebody asked me, uh, Dr.
Speaker 1: (08:22)
Dave, was there a point in your microdosing for the one and a half years so far, was there a point where your graph or the way you felt started going down a little bit and then went back up again? Were there ever any like really tough times? And it was a really good question and I had to think about that for a second. But in the one and a half years that I was, um, microdosing, uh, no, it, it never, once it started getting better, it never got worse. And then came and kind of like the stock market, like the stock market generally goes up, but then there are bear markets and times where there’s some type of something going on in the world. And it goes down. Like with Covid for example, the stock market was going up, up, up and then Covid, um, it went way down, way down.
Speaker 1: (09:11)
But then a few months later, maybe within six months, it started going way up again. So the overall net effect was up, up, up, up, up. But there were like peaks and valleys. It went down sometimes too with mine. No, it really ne with my microdosing, no, it never really went down. But that’s not to say that yours won’t. I’ve spoken to people that sometimes they just have a bad week, you know, we’re still human beings and, and things happen and we have feelings and, and um, although there’s a, a general sense of rewiring or rebooting of the brain, which is a good thing and rewiring in a good way. But there are setbacks sometimes and things that can happen. And sometimes your graph may go down a little bit, dip down a little bit, but then it will recover and go up, up, up further than it’s ever been.
Speaker 1: (10:00)
So I’m speaking of stock market language and financial language. I’m very bullish , those the view that are, you know, financial people, I’m very bullish, um, very positive about what magic mushrooms can do to what they’ve not only done for me, but what they can do for you. And anybody that’s listening or, or, or you know, your friends or family, whoever it might be, I am really, really convinced that these are the answer to not only feeling better, but to have a totally, totally different outlook on life. So again, getting back to our question, this is super important. How long does it take? Well, again, like I said, it depends, but I wanna share this with you in my, during my, uh, one and a half year journey. Cause that’s where I am right now. A little bit over one and a half years now, cuz time keeps marching on, it doesn’t stop for us, right?
Speaker 1: (10:54)
Um, during that journey, I’ve also worked on other things. So it’s not just a matter of me or anybody else just eating mushrooms or consuming mushrooms several times per week and then kicking back and say, Oh, everything’s gonna be fine. No, you, I looked into a lot of other things. First of all, I did continue seeing my doctor, my psychiatrist for my mental health. I continued seeing him. But I will tell you, it got to the point where we both looked at each other and said, and he said to me, even, and I’ve talked about this earlier, he said to me, Dave, what you’ve learned and what you’ve accomplished from these magic mushrooms from microdosing, it will, it would’ve taken you. And it takes my patients years and years and sometimes decades or more to get where you’ve been with the rewiring of your brain from the magic mushrooms.
Speaker 1: (11:51)
And that made me feel so good because again, I’ve talked about this before, but, but talk therapy, I think, you know, it could be good for some people. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, but it’s very, very slow and it’s usually best used as an adjunct to something else because talk therapy alone, I, I, I’m sorry, I’ve just never seen talk therapy alone. Like totally turned somebody’s life around and now they’re feeling better every day just, just because of talk therapy. Again, it can help, but it’s not the, it’s not the do all end all. It’s, it’s really not. So in my journey with microdosing magic mushrooms, I looked into so many things. Um, I, I, there’s, there’s no ambassador for your health better than you are. And for my health, there’s no ambassador better than I am. Now, I have a team of doctors that I work with, one of ’em being a psychiatrist, but I also work with my family practice, you know, my primary care.
Speaker 1: (12:48)
Um, you know, I’ve got, I’ve got different doctors that I see if I need them for certain things. Um, and by the way, this is a real quick aside, but this is, this is, again, this is important. Um, I threw up, No, that doesn’t sound good. I didn’t throw up, I threw, I threw a question up. , I threw a question on my YouTube channel. Um, I think it was just yesterday. Yesterday, the day before. Um, the question was, have you shared with your doctor your microdosing journey, basically, have you told your doctor that you’re using matching mushrooms? And what do you think the percentage was of people that, um, answer answered that and said, Yes, I’ve shared this with my doctor. Do you have a guess? What would your guess be if you had to guess what percentage of people that kind of in our group here that follow me and listen to the podcast and watch the YouTube channel and, um, or on the Facebook, by the way, Facebook group.
Speaker 1: (13:39)
Um, I started this, um, a week or two ago and it’s really growing. And, um, in between episodes here, if you want to hang out with me and I’ll answer questions, um, I’ll put a link to that Facebook group in the show notes here, because it’s, it’s really something that’s, that’s working out very well. And it’s a place where we can all kind of hang out together and we can discuss things and, and talk about, you know, issues and answer questions. It’s, it’s really great. It’s called microdose You. Um, it is a group, it’s not a page, it’s a group on Facebook. And again, just click the link in the show notes and you’ll get right there. And, um, and that’ll be great to hang out with you, but only, okay, what was your guess? What percentage of people share this journey with their doctor?
Speaker 1: (14:24)
If you guessed 50%, five, zero, or 50%, you’re wrong. Guess what? It’s 15 to 16%. Last I looked at the poll, it’s still ongoing, but last I looked at the poll, it was right around 15 to 16% of you are sharing this with your doctor. Personally, I think that’s not a good move because, um, so I shared this with two of my doctors already, and the response I got from them, from them was, was nothing short of super, super positive. Any doctor these days, even though yes, it is illegal in most areas that are, I’m reaching here, it’s illegal to use psilocybin. I get that, but forgetting about that first, second, most doctors understand that this is a, an up and coming, uh, quickly emerging, um, way to treat mental issues such as, uh, depression. Uh, you, you know, the whole thing, depression, anxiety, the whole, the list goes on.
Speaker 1: (15:28)
I’ve said it a million times, you know that, um, why wouldn’t you discuss this with your doctor? Why wouldn’t you tell him or her? Is it that you’re embarrassed, afraid illegal? They’re not allowed, they’re not going to turn you in. They’re not allowed to do that. This is confidential. It’s patient doctor confidentiality, and they’re not allowed to call the police on, and nor nor would they, why would they do that? Um, I’ve had great, great, um, conversations with my doctors about this, and they’re, they’re all in and they, even though they might not do it themselves, they understand it. Um, they’re positive about it. They’re, they’re, they’re in favor of it. Um, and if you, if you have a doctor that you tell that you’re doing this, and the doctor, um, says, Well, no, I don’t want you doing this. Um, I would ask why point blank.
Speaker 1: (16:20)
Um, and I would, if they, if they’re adamant about that, and if you don’t feel it’s a good reason, like you just sh I just don’t think it’s good. You shouldn’t do it. It’s a drug, you shouldn’t do it, then I would look for another doctor, because most doctors that are really up on this type of stuff, um, understand it and see that this has tremendous potential. So for a doctor to say, No, this is crazy. This is, uh, this is something you need to stay away from, it’s snake oil, it don’t believe it, it’s new age, then I would, I would probably not go to that doctor. I would want a doctor that’s more progressive and understands what’s, what’s going on. So what did I work on during my microdosing and what do I still work on? Um, something that’s very, very important is sleep.
Speaker 1: (17:12)
And nobody really talks about that. That much mean people, Oh, you gotta get a good night’s sleep. But let me tell you something, sleep is really, really important and extremely serious. If you’re not getting not only the right amount of hours of sleep, but the proper sleep, meaning the proper amount of deep sleep, um, you don’t ha you’re not waking up due to some obstruction like sleep apnea, which by the way, I have, I was diagnosed with that and I never knew it. And so I’ve really looked into my sleep and learned a lot and worked with it. And I am sleeping through the night now at the very most. I’ll get up once in the middle of the night to go use the bathroom, but generally speaking, I sleep through the night. Um, seven and a half hours is like the goal. It’s like the, it’s the sweet spot.
Speaker 1: (17:58)
So eight is okay, and seven is okay, but if you’re sleeping less than seven or more than eight, it’s actually not good for your health. Like you would think that, oh, if, if seven and a half or eight hours of sleep is really good, if I get 10, I’m gonna be super healthy. No, it doesn’t work like that. It’s actually, it’s actually quite bad for your health. Look that up. Look that up. Um, people are shown to have more heart problems, um, and, and things like that if you, if you get too much sleep. So check that out. But, but my point is, I’ve been working on a tremendous amount of things in my own, for my own health in my, with my body. Sleep is a major one. I’m now using a a C P A P machine. Uh, it’s actually a, a slightly different version of a C pap called an as V.
Speaker 1: (18:44)
Um, which assists me during the night when I would stop breathing because of my sleep apnea. And it’s been a game changer. Now, I’m not saying that you have sleep apnea, I don’t know, but I will tell you this, 80%, it’s very prevalent, at least here in the us and I’m, I have no reason to believe it’s not prevalent all over the world because we’re all humans come from the same place. Um, 80% of the cases of sleep apnea, 80% are undiagnosed. That means out of all the people on the planet that have sleep apnea, only 20% know about it. And probably a small percentage of that actually do something about it. It’s really scary. And obstructive sleep apnea or, or sleep apnea in general, whether, whether it’s obstructive or uh, central or whatever it might be, um, is a very, very serious issue that many people have that don’t know it.
Speaker 1: (19:39)
How do you know if you have it? We’ll, talk to your doctor and, and just ask for a sleep study. Usually insurance covers it and it’s, it will tell you a lot about your sleep and about your health. Super important. Um, should everybody have one? I I don’t know the answer to that, but certainly if you’ve got a couple extra pounds on you, if you feel that you’ve got some anxiety and depression, if your blood pressure is up a little bit, um, or a lot, um, if you’re sleepy during the day, sometimes if you feel that you have to, you’re tired, you, uh, if you feel like you almost wanna fall asleep behind the wheel, just all then I would, I would get tested. I would have a test for sleep apnea. Talk to your doctor about that. But I worked on that. I’ve been working on my eating program, but what I eat, what I put into my body, um, exercise, um, I’ve been doing a, um, a mental exercise every sing a men, you know, I do physical exercise, a lot of that, but I do a mental exercise every morning.
Speaker 1: (20:40)
Um, and I start off when I wake up in the morning, uh, with a very positive mantra, and I say something like, It’s a good day. It’s a beautiful day, it’s a positive day. I am positive and I will stay positive. I am centered and I will stay centered. And I have a shield around me protecting me from negative and bad. I would say that 10 times to myself or out loud, it’s better out loud. Or I would write it down every single morning. Now I don’t do it every morning now because I’ve done it so much. I’m, I’ve kind of flipped that switch and I, it’s one of the reasons I have a totally different outlook on life Now, try that. Go back and rewind. If, if rewind is the right word these days, I don’t even know. Go back to that where I said that and mark it somehow, or write it down and try saying that every single morning.
Speaker 1: (21:31)
And it’s very powerful. If you at least write it down once, it’s very, very easy. You’ll, you’ll memorize it in a second. It’s a good day. It’s a beautiful day. It’s a positive day. I am positive and I will stay positive. I am centered and I will stay centered. And I have a shield around me protecting me from negative and bad. If you do just that every morning along with your microdosing or you don’t even have to microdose to do that, you will, in about 30 days, you will flip this switch that you never knew existed. You’ll feel totally different about things. And also it really does help if you first thing in the morning along with that, well, you can’t do it exactly the same time, but either before or right after. Uh, watch something very funny on a video. Watch something funny, like, like some type of comedy, some type of comic, some type of cartoon that might be funny.
Speaker 1: (22:22)
Um, just for five or 10 minutes, that’s all. And if you don’t have that kind of time to put into your health every single morning, then what kind of results are you expecting? Are you expecting this just all magic and it’s just gonna, you eat a little magic mushroom, it’s gonna, everything’s gonna change in your life? Well, it’s gonna help you. The magic mushroom will help you a lot. I don’t wanna downplay that, but you’ve gotta do the work alongside of it to get better, to feel better. How would it feel to wake up every morning and you get outta bed and you just kind of float through your day in a, in a very good way. Like just there’s, there are no, there no like terrible issues that come up. There’s nothing that’s bothering you. How would you, how would you like that? Now again, we’re, we’re all human.
Speaker 1: (23:11)
And if like somebody, for example, if somebody very close to you passes away, you’re going to be sad. And that’s totally fine. We have emotions. You want to be sad, you’re gonna feel that, but you’re not gonna let your inner voice, the things that are bothering you now, you’re not gonna let that inner voice and all these crazy things, you’re not gonna let that bother you anymore, ever. And this is the start to you feeling better every single day for the rest of your life. So, circling back, Dr. Dave, but how long does it take? I don’t know it, When it happens, it happens, and you will know it, it will happen. So when it happens, please drop me a line. Let me know. Even if it’s a year from now, I’m here, I’ll be here. I’m God willing, I’ll be here. , I’m not that old.
Speaker 1: (24:06)
I’m old, but I’m not that old . So my, my email address is, uh, is, what is it? It’s, it’s run Dr. Dave at Gmail run. Dr. Dave, it’s r u n d r d a v e, all one word. Of course run. Dr. Dave all case. I don’t think it’s case sensitive either. But, um, run Dr. email@example.com. Love to hear from you. Just let me know how you’re feeling, let me know how you, how this is resonating with you. And, um, before I leave you, just something super important. If you listen all the way, you’re engaged, I mean, I don’t mean engaged to be married. I mean, you’re en you’re engaged with me in, in, in this, in this topic. You, you want to do something. So one way you could just help me out a little bit. It’ll take you five seconds. Go on to wherever you’re getting your podcasts, Apple podcasts or whatever, and just gimme a, gimme your review, gimme your rating and review.
Speaker 1: (24:59)
It really does help the show and it does help more when you do that, especially if it’s a good one, which I hope it is. Um, but I want it to be honest. But, but if you do that, and when you do that, it just helps the podcast, uh, grow a little bit more by they, they show it to more people. If it’s got a better rating, more rating, more people listening, show it to more people. And that all that means is I can help more people like you that are hurting, that need help, that don’t know where to turn to that just need something in their lives that to change them and make them feel better. That’s all I ask. So that was it for today. I, I hope you enjoy and thanks for being with me. Thanks for sticking till the end. I am Dr. Dave, this is Microdose you. I’ll talk to you soon.