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Dr. Dave: (00:00)
Hey there. How are you? I am Dr. Dave and welcome to microdose U today. I’m gonna be sharing with you the absolute beginner’s guide to microdosing magic mushrooms. Um, I’ve been doing these videos for probably close to a year now. And, um, I, I seem to get like the same questions over and over and over again. So a lot of times I refer people to one of my videos or another video, but today what I’m going to try to do is to give you all the information you need to know in one video, that’s very easy to understand, very easy to digest. So this could kind of be your go to video. If you have any questions at all, from start to finish about microdosing, you should refer back to it because I’m gonna really try to answer every single thing you need to know about microdosing.

Dr. Dave: (00:47)
If you’re a beginner or if you’ve gotten into it and you have questions. Um, and this is also the type of video that if you have anybody that you know is interested in microdosing and they have a lot of questions, and they’re asking you, then refer them to this video because Dr. Dave here at microdose, you will take care of all of the questions. So let’s dive right into it right now. Let’s start with a question that’s, um, basic, and we need to start with this. What exactly is microdosing? So in this video and really in all my videos, when I refer to microdosing, I’m, I’m talking about microdosing magic mushrooms. The active ingredient is SIL Sabin, and there are a lot of other things you can micro dose with people, micro dose with L S D uh, MDMA. Uh, the list goes on and on, but my experience, and I was gonna say my expertise, but my experience is definitely only with magic mushrooms.

Dr. Dave: (01:41)
So I’m referring to magic mushrooms in this video, you can extrapolate to other plant substances if you like. But, um, in this video in particular, we’re only talking about magic mushrooms. So microdosing is taking a subception dose of magic mushrooms. So you’re not getting the psychedelic effect. You’re not going on a trip per se, but the subception dose is enough over time to take care of things that you might want to change in your life, things that are going on in your life that you wanna see improve. And that’ll actually segue right into the next section. What do people use it for? Why do people want to microdose? And the answer to that is, well, I’ll give you a list of things that I have used it for and continue to use it for. And there are others too that maybe I won’t even know about, but there, there microdosing has helped people with many different issues. The most common in some of the ones that I’ve used at four are depression, anxiety, um, insomnia, PTSD addiction. I personally have never had an addiction problem, but I know many people have. And I know that microdosing magic mushrooms has been very, um, instrumental and, and people have used it successfully in combating addiction problems.

Dr. Dave: (02:59)
Some people want to be more present in the moment, more mindful in their lives. And microdosing is an excellent, excellent tool for that. Some people wanna be more spiritual, understand the, their purpose of life. Um, things like that. And again, microdosing really helps with, with that as well. I actually had a problem sometimes when I wasn’t, maybe I was going through depression, anxiety. I just felt like I couldn’t get things going. I just, you know, I would wake up in the morning and just, I would just Dick around. And, and I had maybe like a list of things I wanted to do for the day, or even in my mind, but I just, I just couldn’t get going. I was just lazy, procrastinating and magic mushrooms have really helped me quite a bit with that. And some people wanna be more creative, better at their work.

Dr. Dave: (03:45)
Um, just enjoy things more and, and, and get the most outta life that they can. Magic mushrooms, microdosing, magic mushrooms are, um, in my opinion, perfect for these things. So before I get onto the next section, I just wanna reiterate magic mushrooms, microdosing magic mushrooms. You’re taking a subception dose. You’re not getting stone. You’re not getting high. You’re not going on a psychedelic trip. You’re not hallucinating if you I’m gonna touch on that a little bit later. But if you’re, if you’re experiencing any of that, then your dose is too high, but I’m gonna have a, a section here totally on how to start, how to, how to know what dose, um, what, how to know what dose you should be taking. I want to mention something about where to purchase, where to buy, where to source magic mushrooms. And I wanna make it very clear on my channel here.

Dr. Dave: (04:33)
I do not, I do not have anything to do with selling. I’m not a distributor. I’m not a, uh, I don’t sell magic mushrooms. I don’t recommend, uh, sources. I, I just wanna stay away from that area. I want, I want, I’m giving you information, but I don’t, I don’t at all get into where to purchase them. If you have a little bit of creativity, I will tell you like about a year and a half ago before I started, um, I had no idea, no idea where to get them, but with a little bit of research, a little bit of ingenuity, uh, a little bit of poking around it. I will tell you it, it’s not a problem at all. It’s very, very easy. I also wanna mention that on almost every video I do. Um, there is a group of scammers that come on and, and typically what they say is, um, we have, we have mushrooms.

Dr. Dave: (05:20)
We have DMT, we have LSD. We have, they, they name a whole bunch of drugs and they say, follow, go to my Instagram handle, or she’s got this, or he’s got this. I wanna make it very clear. These are all scammers. They have nothing to do with me. I’m not promoting them. I’m not asking them to be on my channel. I try my best to delete them and block them from the channel when I see them. But it seems like it’s, they’re like weeds. They, you get rid of one and, and four more popups. So it’s pretty much impossible to get rid of all of them. But if you ever see any of these scammers on my channel, please keep in mind, do not take their bait. Do not communicate with them. They are scammers. They will take your money. They are doing something illegal and terrible and ripping my people off.

Dr. Dave: (06:02)
If you succumb to that. So I’m making it very clear. These are not my people or my recommendations. If you see them, you can try to report them as well. Because I think you’re, you, you can click a couple buttons and report them, but I have no way of getting rid of them again. They, they multiply like, like, um, bunny rabbits. It’s just it’s oh my God, they need a life, but it’s a shame, but they do that. So let’s get into the next section. Now, how do you ingest magic mushrooms? What are the recommended forms? Well, the possibilities are, first of all, whenever I talk about magic mushrooms, I’m always talking about dried mushrooms. Typically also dried ground up mushrooms. You can grind them up in a coffee grinder, but, um, it’s very rare that, and I don’t have much experience in, in ingesting fresh mushrooms that are just picked out of the ground and they’re, and they’re still moist.

Dr. Dave: (06:49)
I, I don’t have experience with that. Every time I use them. It’s ground dried mu well, not necessarily ground, but at least dried mushrooms. Also, they come in edibles. I know some people that sell them as far as edible chocolates and, and all kinds of goodies they’re mixed in. And, and those are actually good, but those are more for macro dosing, more for taking larger doses with microdosing. Generally we don’t use edibles. Um, also some people use, um, teas. They soak, they soak the, uh, ground mushrooms in, in, in, in, in, in hot water and tea. And they, um, drink that and that’s, that’s okay. But the most common way to ingest a micro dose. And this is the way I almost always do it is in capsule form, dried ground mushrooms in capsule form. If you just take a bite off of a dried mushroom, stalk, or cap, um, the Sy in a mushroom is not uniformly dispersed.

Dr. Dave: (07:49)
So you could take a bite outta one and you could get either a lot of psilocybin or you could get almost none. That’s why I recommend take, if you don’t do it yourself, um, have their people that do this, um, grind, the mushroom in a coffee grinder, mix it all up, uh, several at a time maybe. And that way thes aside will be uni, uh, uniformly dispersed. And it won’t, you’re not eating the wrong party. You’re not eating too much or too little when you weigh it out, you’re, you’re getting an accurate, um, dose every single time. That’s why I highly recommend using pre-measured weigh out ground dried mushrooms in capsule form. And again, I can’t discuss where to get these, but you have to trust me. It’s not difficult, but remember, do not get taken advantage of by a scammer. Please do your due diligence.

Dr. Dave: (08:39)
Do your research, talk to other people. Okay. So how do you start? Where do you start? How, how many milligrams, how many grams now, when you’re getting into microdosing or using mushrooms, um, it’s really good to know grams and milligrams and the conversion back and forth. And I’ll give you a little primer. It’s really simple. It’s not difficult. You just basically move the decimal 0.3 times each weight, depending on how higher you’re going. So one gram of magic mushrooms, one gram, well could be one gram of anything is 1000 milligrams. So if you’re taking a half a gram of something, that’s 0.5 gram, that would be how many milligrams that would be 500 milligrams, 500 milligrams is 0.5 grams. Um, 100 milligrams is 0.1 grams when you get down below a hundred. So like 50 milligrams is 0.05 grams, know this, know this backwards and forwards.

Dr. Dave: (09:38)
So you don’t make a mistake and take way too little or way too much. You gotta be very careful. So know your metric system, write it out, make sure you’re right. If you, if you don’t understand it, just go on a computer and do conversion a milligrams to grams. And it’s very, very, very easy. So where do you start? A micro dose is generally, but somewhere between 50 milligrams. So again, that’s 0.05 grams, 50 milligrams, and about 300 milligrams. That’s kind of the very high end. Maybe some people would say 250 milligrams. Um, that’s a typical range of a micro dose. So where do you start? And how do you know where to start? My recommendation is to start at 100 milligrams. Unless for some reason you feel that in, in, during your life, you’re, you’re always extremely sensitive to medications and alcohol or whatever.

Dr. Dave: (10:31)
There’s no real correlation, but if you’re really sensitive and you normally take way lower dose in almost everything. And then I would probably start at 50 milligrams, but typically I’m gonna recommend starting at 100 milligrams. And how many grams is that? How many grams? 100 milligrams do you know? It’s 0.1 gram. So I’m gonna recommend you start at 100 milligrams or 0.1 gram. How do you do it? You generally take your dose first. This is what I do. First thing in the morning on an empty stomach. Okay. First thing in the morning, don’t eat because that will allow the medicine to get into your stomach and go through digestion and without having any other type of food or anything else interfere with that. That’s the cleanest and easiest way to do it and quickest as well. So let’s say on day one, you’re taking 100 milligrams do that in the morning.

Dr. Dave: (11:26)
Then a little while later, you eat your breakfast the first time you ever do it, the first time you ever dose. Now, remember this is a microdose. So it’s, subception, you’re not supposed to feel high. You’re not supposed to feel trippy. You’re not supposed to be seeing triangles and all kinds of patterns. No, you’re’s a micro dose. So if you ever take a micro dose and you feel like it’s really interfering, or it’s making you feel trippy or wavy, or you can’t really function, then that’s too much, then you need to back off. So let’s say you let’s just say you started with 100 milligrams and let’s say for some reason, I doubt it’s gonna be the case, but let’s say for some reason, 100 milligrams made you feel weird. You just felt like you couldn’t really function well and you just didn’t feel right.

Dr. Dave: (12:08)
Then the next day I would recommend backing down to 50 milligrams. Now this is more often, this is gonna be the case. If you take a higher dose and it’s gonna be too high from a microdose, and you wanna back down say from like 250 milligrams, you’ll probably go down to like 200 or two or, or 150 it’s it’s generally, generally not gonna happen with a hundred milligrams. That’s pretty darn low, but, but it could, it could. So on day one, you want to take your first dose. And again, we’re starting with 100 milligrams. Um, the first time you ever do it, people ask me, well, can you go to work? Can you drive? Can you be with your kids? Can you do this? And can you do that? So generally the answer is yes, but remember it’s subception, but the first time you ever do it, you don’t really know how you’re gonna react.

Dr. Dave: (12:54)
You might have upset stomach. You might feel trippy. So the first time you ever do it, I recommend just being by yourself or being with somebody that you know, can watch after you. Again, you’re not gonna go on a trip, but somebody just, that can be with you if you want. I didn’t. But, um, I wouldn’t microdose for the very first time and drive into work and then have to work an eight hour day. I, I just would be very careful the first time you do it, chances are 95% chance that you’re gonna be totally fine. You’re not gonna really notice anything really, really different. So on. If that’s the case on day two, you take the same dose at the same time on day three, you do it again. Now if day one and day two has been fine, you feel okay? Then I’d say day three is pretty safe to, you know, if you felt totally fine, if you have any effects, day three is gonna be safe to go into work, be with your kids, drive, whatever you need to do, because you’ve already tested for two days and you had no, um, you had no percept perceptual effects.

Dr. Dave: (13:55)
So I’d say that’s pretty safe. Now people always ask me how many days on a road do I do it? Do I need to take a break? And the answer is, yes, you do need to take a break. There’s a certain pattern we go by. Because if you do it every day, you’re going to develop a tolerance and it’s not going to work. Or at least it’s not going to work nearly as well. So the pattern I recommended, this is how I did it. When I started, there’s nothing said in stone and there’s, there are many different ways to do it. And there are different techniques that a lot of people, different people use, but what I’m gonna recommend for a beginner, for somebody who’s just starting is to do three days on. So that means you take day one in the morning, day two in the morning, day three in the morning, then you take two days off, two days of rest, introspection, just reevaluating.

Dr. Dave: (14:41)
See how you feel. And then if all is good, you go your next round three days in a row after you take your two days off and then you do it again. You take two days off after that and you do three days in a row. Now, after several cycles of that start noticing how you’re feeling. If you are taking the microdose for let’s just say the most common is probably depression and or anxiety. If you are not feeling any, okay, let let’s, let’s go back for a second. The best scenario is you’re starting to feel a little more relaxed. You’re starting to feel a little bit better. You’re starting to not ha be, not feel as depressed as you normally do. That’s great. Keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t change the dose. If you don’t notice any difference at all, after a few cycles, like I just feel still very anxious, very depressed.

Dr. Dave: (15:33)
I just, nothing seems to be any different. Then let’s say again, it’s not set in stone, but let’s say about maybe the third or fourth time around you wanna up your dose. And I would go from 100 milligrams up to one fifty, a hundred fifty milligrams. And how many grams is that? How many grams is 150 milligrams? It is 0.1, five grams. You getting the knack of this. You just move the decimal 0.3 places over. That’s all. So now you’re at one 50 because the 100 you, after several cycles, you didn’t really feel any change at all. So now you’re one 50 and you keep doing the same thing. If it, if you feel too high too, like it’s too much, like it’s CRA, then, then you back, you have to back off again. But if you still feel okay, you do this for a few more cycles, three days on two days off.

Dr. Dave: (16:26)
If after a few cycles, you are not noticing any difference with your anxiety and depression, then you go up again. So you’re gonna go up to what you’re gonna go up to 200 milligrams, which is 0.2 grams. And you do the same thing. Now, at some point, at some point you are going to say to yourself, I’m starting to feel better. It is going to happen. It will happen. I mean, there’s nothing, that’s a hundred percent and everybody’s different. And they’re, anti-depressants that work on some people and don’t work on others. But this is a plant medicine it’s been around for centuries and 10, I’d say tens of thousands of years, indigenous people have been using this. Um, it’s nothing new. It really should help you. It, it helped me incredibly. It, it totally changed my life around to, to the point where I was depressed, anxious on high blood pressure medication. I couldn’t sleep at night. Um, about a year later, about a year. It’s not, it’s not gonna be a quick fix. It’s not gonna happen overnight, but, but over time it really helped me. And, and I felt changes almost right away. But one year later, I’m, I’m over a year now, but at one year, at the one year point I was off of all medication, totally. 100% off of everything. And I have never felt this good in,

Dr. Dave: (17:49)
I say in decades, probably since my childhood and I’m 67 years old right now. And I cannot remember feeling this, calm, this relaxed, this confident I’m sleeping well, it’s it, it does work, but you have to give it a chance. You have to believe in it and it will work for you. So you need to get to a dose where you feel comfortable with it. It’s not too high, that it does not get in the way of you going about your normal day and watching your kids and going to work and driving, but also a dose that is working for you. So you can going up until you can get to that point where it’s you can’t function or it’s you feel a little weird. And then, and then you just back off 50 milligrams and then kind of, that should be your dose and, and you just keep doing it.

Dr. Dave: (18:35)
Um, you can, depending on how you feel, you can kind of get the feel for like, I was never on a, after, after the first couple months, I was not really on a strict, exact three days. On two days off, I, I kind of did it as I felt I needed it. Sometimes, maybe I did four days in a row. Sometimes, maybe I only did one day then took a few days off. But after you get into it and, and get into a rhythm and feel it, you will you’ll understand what I’m saying. Um, you don’t understand it now because you haven’t done it, but you will feel the mushrooms and you’ll feel the mushrooms working for you. And you’ll take it from there. You’ll kind of be your own boss. It’s not like you have a doctor looking over that says, you’ve gotta take this two times a day.

Dr. Dave: (19:18)
You know, I’m talking about another type me. You’ve gotta take this medication twice a day. And if you miss a day, you’re in tr you know, no, it’s not like that at all. Um, when I first started, people told me that you get to a point where you feel you don’t even really need it anymore. And I thought to myself, wow, that’s really cool. But if it works so well, I hope I always need it, but no, I’m at a point now where I can go for some time now without ingesting any magic mushrooms at all, and I’m fine. And then I’ll take a maintenance dose. And, um, I might take a little bit of a larger dose, but larger doses is beyond the scope of this video. I don’t wanna get into talking about larger doses or macro doses in this video. We’re only talking about microdosing and that’s really all you need right now.

Dr. Dave: (19:59)
Okay. Now a really, really common question I get asked is, should I take my microdose or should I use matching mushrooms? If I’m currently on antidepressants? Now I want to back up for a second and make it very clear that, um, this is not medical advice. This is advice I’m giving you based on my experience, my story, what I’ve done, but I am absolutely not going to tell you that you need to stop your antidepressant. That’s up that’s between you and your doctor. That would be irre, medically irresponsible for me to say, get off your, all your medication, get off your antidepressants. Get off. No, I, I can’t say that, but I will share with you what I did when I first started microdosing, I was using Lexapro. Lexapro is an antidepressant. It’s an SS I, which stands for selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. Um, it’s a very, very common antidepressant.

Dr. Dave: (20:55)
Even if, if you’re taking antidepressant, that’s not Lexapro. There’s still a very good chance. It’s an SS I, or S N R I, I think I got that right. S N R I they’re fairly similar. They all have to do with the, uh, uptake of serotonin or, or how serotonin is handled. So I was taking Lexapro and I did not quit my Lexapro. That would be again, that would be stupid irresponsible. I didn’t wanna do that. And you have to be very careful when you discontinue and, uh, and antidepressant because you can’t just stop cold Turkey. You’ve gotta taper off. Anyway. So along with my antidepressant, I started microdosing and almost immediately I started feeling better different. Um, it took like the edge off that it was even there with my antidepressant. It just took that edge off that I felt really, really good. Now over a period of time, over a long period of time, when I was very confident that the microdosing was working, I started weaning off of my antidepressant.

Dr. Dave: (22:02)
Now I am very lucky cause I have a doctor who is very, let’s say, um, psilocybin, magic, mushroom, friendly. I was very upfront with him. I told him what I’m doing. He was all in favor of, because he said, this stuff’s gonna be mainstream pretty soon. He said, it’s just, it’s, they’re doing studies. They’re doing clinical studies at Hopkins and many, many, um, you know, um, universities, um, it’s gonna be mainstream. So he he’s, he understands that. And he said, yes, Dave, you know, try it. So I did. And we got to the point where I felt I wanted to try to wean off of my Lexapro, which I did. And I did that. I start, I was on Lexapro at 20 milligrams, which is the most, um, so I started gradually taking it down. I took it down to 15, uh, did that for quite some time for a few weeks.

Dr. Dave: (22:50)
Um, then I took it down to 10. Ultimately got down to five, got the end two and a half and two and a half men breaking a five because five, I believe is the smallest, smallest amount, smallest tablet. So I, I was like cutting fives and half to two and a half. Finally, over several months, it took me several months and I was in no hurry at all. Um, I was totally weaned off of the Lexapro as I am right now and I feel fantastic. So again, is there a danger in using microdose magic mushrooms with Lexapro or an antidepressant? Um, again, from my experience and only my experience, no, your mild may vary. Be careful. There is something called serotonin syndrome, but that’s generally with taking much larger doses. And along with antidepressants, and even my doctor said to me, he said, you know, you really have, and this, again, this, he told me, it’s not what I’m telling you, but he said, you there’s very, it’s very unlikely the doses you’re taking the micro doses, that you’re gonna run into anything, even close to serotonin syndrome, which could be dangerous.

Dr. Dave: (23:53)
But he said, that’s not even anything to worry about. So I’m pacing that on to you again, it’s not medical advice. It’s friend to friend, I’m telling you what my doctor told me. And I think it’s pretty safe advice, pretty sound advice. But that’s the way it is. I certainly would never recommend saying to yourself, I’m just gonna get off of all my medication and then start microdosing again. I think that’s not good. It’s irresponsible. You’re not even sure whether the microdosing is gonna work or what dose it. So I think, um, at least in my case, I chose to do both together at the same time, but now I’m off of the Lexapro. If I hope that really helps you. Okay. So I wanted to touch on now how, again, I think I touched on this a little bit, but I’ll go back to is it’s very important.

Dr. Dave: (24:35)
How do you know if it’s working? Well, my simple answer to this is you will know. You will know if you feel better. I mean, if you feel every day after then, it’s probably not working, but there’s a reason and you can tweak it just because it’s not working when you first start. That doesn’t mean you need to quit tweak it as per my instructions at the beginning of the video with dosages. I mean, if you tweak it and you keep this up, if you’re looking for an overnight fix, this is not for you. This is something that is going take a little while. But hopefully even at the beginning, you’ll start to notice subtle differences. But it’s something that will take a little while. But again, the answer to the question is you will know you will be certain that it’s working. And I wanna touch on this too, because a very common question I get asked and I’ve run into many people that said when they started microdosing, they were, it got them super anxious.

Dr. Dave: (25:27)
They were just, they increased their anxiety. Well, I’m here to tell you that the reason it increases their anxiety is because they think it’s going to, they’re worried. They’re afraid of ingesting this medication, cuz it’s gonna make them go crazy. I will tell you, it will not make you go crazy. It will not make you more anxious only if you think it will. I’ve been doing this for well over a year. Now say 15 months, I can count the number of times on one hand that I’ve had anxiety from matching mushrooms. And that number is actually zero it’s, zero. It’s never, ever, ever made me anxious, micro doses or even larger doses. I’ve never really taken a macro dose or what they call a threshold dose, which is a very, very high dose. But I’ve, I’ve taken upwards of, you know, one to two plus grams and in all of my microdosing and macro dosing, um, again, I’ve zero anxiety.

Dr. Dave: (26:22)
It’s never made me anxious. So again, I think it’s only gonna make you anxious if you’re going into it worried about something or thinking that it will, and then it, anything can make you an any kind of medication that you take will make you anxious. If you think it’s going to, um, it it’s, that’s that’s gonna happen even though we’re still talking microdosing. If you’re worried about being anxious, first of all, don’t be because it’s not gonna make you anxious, but the first few times you do it just be in a relaxed setting. Um, put, if you want sit down and you’re in a comfortable room in your house, on the sofa on a really nice, comfortable chair and put something on TV. That’s funny. I like to a comedy, the three Stooges, something like an old funny show generally, um, is really relaxing and it gets, uh, your brain going in that direction where you’re laughing and you think things are funny.

Dr. Dave: (27:11)
It it’s it’s, it’s not going to make you anxious. So please do not worry about that part. So we’re wrapping this up. Another question I’d like to answer that is very common is how long do I need to microdose? Meaning do I need, is this something I need to do for the rest of my life? The answer is, and I did a whole video on this. So check back. I think the video was called, how long do I need to microdose or something like that? Or can I quit micro? I can’t remember exactly what it’s called, but I’ll see if I can put a link to it somewhere. Um, the answer is, I don’t know. It depends. Um, as I said, I’ve gotten to the point where I can take pretty long breaks and then I just kind of take a maintenance dose or sometimes I still do three on two off and, and depending on how I feel.

Dr. Dave: (27:56)
Um, so the answer is how long will you the answer to the question? How long do you need to microdose is again, there’s not a definite answer. Everybody’s different. You may feel that after a period of time, it it’s worked so well that you just don’t really need it or you which taking occasional dose. And that’s totally fine. You might find that you love it and you love the way you feel and you may never wanna stop it again. It’s personal, everybody’s different, there’s no right or wrong. It’s how you feel and how it works for you. So I think I’ve covered everything that I want to cover. I’ve covered the most common questions. I’ve covered everything you need to know. I think I did, uh, from start to finish and final thoughts would be just, this is not a pharmaceutical medication. It is a, a natural plant medicine that has been used for, I think, tens of thousands of years, uh, with indigenous people.

Dr. Dave: (28:56)
Um, it, it got a bad rap in the sixties and seventies when people were using it for partying and, and tripping all over the place. And that’s why, you know, because the war on drugs, they had to make it illegal and it became kind of a mess. I think we’re going to the other direction now where it’s going to become a very, very, uh, respected plant medicine, uh, that is going to be able, you’re going to be able to use this legally, um, right now in, in most areas where I’m in the United States, most areas, not all, but most areas, it remains illegal. It remains a felony. Is that the craziest stupidest thing? I can’t understand that, but yeah, if you get caught with this medication, um, you know, it’s possible you could become a felon. I mean, as ridiculous as, as that sounds, I think if you’re super, again, my opinion, I think if you’re super careful, um, you do this in the privacy of your home.

Dr. Dave: (29:50)
You’re not driving around with a carload of mushrooms. Um, you know, I mean, there are much more important things that I think that law enforcement needs to go after. Um, then a guy or a gal that’s microdosing these magic mushrooms for their health. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but you gotta be careful, of course. Um, that’s why I am. That’s why I never discuss and never, I never really show the mushrooms on video and never discuss where to get them. If you’re careful. Um, you’re, you’re gonna be okay if you’re, if you’re reckless, if you’re stupid about it, then you know, who knows what’s gonna happen, but you know, be careful eat these responsibly. Um, it’s gonna make you, it’s gonna change your life. It it’s, I can say it changed my life. The microdosing has changed my life for the better, like I said before, I, I have not felt this good in decades, decades, so that’s all I have to say.

Dr. Dave: (30:50)
If you have any questions, feel free to ask comment below. Um, liking this video will really help subscribe me to the channel will really help me. Uh, I, I think getting the word out to more people, to me and helping more people all over the world is the most important thing to me since it’s helped me so much. I just wanna get the word out because I found, I have found there are so many people, so many people suffering from mental illnesses, especially anxiety and depression. And, um, I think we can stop this. We can put an end to this and it’s just something that, um, has worked so well for me. That’s why I’m spreading the word. So subscribe like the cha um, like the video comment, ask questions, whatever you wanna do, refer this to others. Um, I’m here for you again, Dr. Dave, although I am a doctor, I’m a retired dentist. This is not to be taken as medical advice. This is my experience. It’s friend talking to friend and I’m here at microdose. You thanks so much for being with me. I’ll talk to you soon.

 

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Welcome back to Microdose U. Today Dr. Dave shares a story that he has never shared with anyone before. And as scary as it was at the time, he is happy to report that things are much better now!

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Here is the complete transcript to today’s show:

Dr. Dave: (00:00)
Hey, how are you? I’m Dr. Dave, in case you don’t know me, I’ve been doing a whole bunch of videos on, uh, how microdosing psilocybin or magic mushrooms have saved my life basically. And about two years ago, almost to the day I was sitting in this exact location here, I’m at east canyon, state park in Utah. And, um, right now I feel great, but two years ago, I really thought that was pretty much the end. I thought it was gonna be dying. I was going, I had a really horrible anxiety attack on the way here. See, it’s about, it’s about an hour and 15 minutes away from salt lake city. So not really a long drive, but for some reason, as my wife and I are driving along the road, driving our little van, um, I got like an anxiety attack. And by the time we got to the campground, I was loading myself up with Valium and, and whatever else I could find.

Dr. Dave: (00:46)
Cause it, I was like a disaster. I, I really thought this could be it. I, I don’t know why I had an anxiety attack. I was going through a tough time where I had a lot of anxiety, definitely some depression, um, insomnia, high blood pressure. I was, I felt like I was injured all the time. Just my body didn’t feel right. I was just tired. And my psoriasis was getting worse. Psoriasis is an autoimmune skin disease. You probably know that was getting worse and worse. And I was just, I was trying to do every single thing I could, along with my doctors to get me out of this weird funk, which I didn’t even know what it was. It was the weirdest thing that ever happened in my life. I’ve always been super healthy in my life. And for some reason, two years ago, I just started like going really, really downhill.

Dr. Dave: (01:31)
It was just, it was really, really horrible. I was doing some talk therapy, um, that talk therapy, I think I’ll, I’ll, I’ll talk about that in a second, but that’s, I, I think it’s for somebody going through something that I was going through and possibly if you’re going through something, um, it’s, it’s really, really slow. I’m not saying talk therapy doesn’t work, but it could take, it could take decades to really work. Right. And well, and I still, I’m still not like a tremendous fan of talk therapy, totally turning somebody’s life around. I think it has to be in conjunction with other things. I decided that my life was pretty much on the line and I had to get myself out of this funk or whatever was going on with my health, because if I didn’t do anything, if I didn’t become like my own doctor, if I didn’t become like totally, totally proactive and maybe not even listen to all the doctors, because they don’t really know everything.

Dr. Dave: (02:22)
Um, they know a lot, but they don’t know everything that’s going on. Especially like with my body. I’m the one that lives in it and can feel it every single day. So I had to, I had to kind of take action and be proactive, and I really went on a, um, mission to save my life. So what did I do? What did I do to start to feel better? Well, the very first thing is I quit my job. I felt that I had been running my business for over 30 years. I kind of had enough. And, and, and I really think my business or what I was doing on a, on a regular basis, which was doing a lot of traveling

Dr. Dave: (02:59)
To speak to different groups on stage and, and, uh, coaching and consulting and just all kind of things like that. It, it was finally start just to get to me. So I, I, I said to myself, I said, I’ve gotta, I’ve gotta take a sabbatical. I’ve gotta just stop working at least for a while to see what happens with my health, because I’ll tell you something, my health and my life are more important than making a lot of money. So I had taken a backseat and don’t do anything anymore. And that’s really, really helped my health and my life. I was also diagnosed with sleep apnea. And at first the doctors were prescribing me a regular C P a P and being the doctor and the kind of like this science type guy that I am, I started doing a tremendous amount of reading on it.

Dr. Dave: (03:41)
And I found that my therapy with the C a P that I was prescribed really was not doing the trick. And I was still tired a lot. It, it was doing okay, but not really what it should have. So I really advanced myself to different types of C P a P machines. Those are D machines that give you positive air pressure during the night. So if you stop breathing, they’ll continue. They’ll make sure you keep breathing, cuz you don’t, you don’t wanna stop breathing in the middle of the night. And by the way, a lot of people have sleep apnea that are undiagnosed. So it’s something that, you know, you may think it’s possibility for you get that checked out. It’s super, super important. So finally over, I’d say over a year, it took, I finally tweaked the right type of, um, settings on a different type of machine that, and, and that’s been working really, really, really well for me.

Dr. Dave: (04:26)
I feel a tremendous difference just in that I had been a vegan for seven years. That’s right. I was eating no animal products whatsoever for seven years. And I really think, uh, again, I can’t be positive of any of this, but I’ll share with you at the end of the video, what the results were for me making all these changes. I stopped my vegan diet. Yeah. After seven years I started eating animal products again and over time. Yeah. I started really feeling a lot better. I don’t care what the vegans say. And a lot of them are actually sometimes kind of cruel if you want to, if you go back to not being a vegan, but it doesn’t really matter to me what the vegans say or what the vegans think. Because I can tell you with 100% certainty with my body, the vegan diet over a period of many years was not working.

Dr. Dave: (05:13)
That is a guarantee 100%. Would it work for you? I don’t know, but for me it wasn’t working. So vegan police, if you’re out to get me, if you wanna, uh, hate me for that. So be it, I was also with my talk therapy starting around the time. Um, two years ago that I thought I was going to lose my life here. I also started taking, um, Lexapro and, um, which is an antidepressant. And I was taking that along with, uh, Valium, diazepam. Sometimes I had days that were so bad. I needed like a little boost, but the, the Lexapro really wasn’t helping with. So I sometimes I had to take additional, uh, benzodiazepine, which was, which was Val. It’s not really a great thing to be on long term. I mean, short term for like a little bit, if you need it, but long term, that’s not a long term solution at all to anxiety and or depression.

Dr. Dave: (06:05)
It’s just not, it’s not good for your body and, and good luck weaning off of, because it is very, very addictive. Luckily I never got to the point where I, I got addicted to it at all, but, uh, it’s still a medicine that you don’t wanna be on for a long period of time at all. Then I made a discovery. I had been doing a lot of reading about magic mushrooms, which contains SIL as you know, and microdosing. And I did enough research and reading on my own to say, I wanna start this. There was basically nothing else left in my life to help me. So I said, I want, I just, I just, I just want to do this. And by the way, something, I think I did forget. I also, um, when I, when I quit the vegan diet also went gluten free.

Dr. Dave: (06:49)
I took gluten outta my diet and I’ll share that with you in a second. What happened there? But I started microdosing magic mushrooms and almost right away, almost right away. I started feeling a difference, um, a, a difference that meant better. And after about, and as I continued microdosing, um, the difference was more profound and more profound to the point where about a month or two after I started microdosing magic mushrooms, I was actually, I, I monitor my blood pressure at home cause I was actually able to get off all of my blood pressure medication. And to this day, my blood pressure is totally normal for me. And it’s, um, it, it’s, it’s incredible that I do not have to be on blood pressure medication anymore. And that I absolutely owe that to the magic mushrooms for sure. They kind of changed my, the wiring of my brain and something is different now.

Dr. Dave: (07:37)
And, and I don’t need, I, I just don’t feel anxious at all anymore. I don’t feel any depression. Uh, again, my blood pressure’s down. Guess what? When I went off my vegan diet and when I went gluten free, my psoriasis, which I had had for at least 25 to 30 years totally went away. Totally, totally went away. It’s gone. So again, I don’t know exactly the human body is very complex and all these things come into place. So whether it was the magic mushrooms more so calming me down or whether it was, uh, getting rid of the vegan diet or the gluten or, or whatever it might have been. I don’t see everything comes in. I don’t know. But that’s why I’m sharing with you. Every single thing that I did, because if I said to you, I only did magic mushrooms. Oh. And nothing else that would not be accurate.

Dr. Dave: (08:26)
And uh, so I wanna make sure you realize that I’m doing a lot of different things. Also. I stepped up my meditation if you’ve been a long term, long time follower, you know, that I not only meditate, but go to a sound bath. Um, every week I do yoga at least several times per week, get out there, move my body exercise. And let me just make sure there’s nothing else I’m forgetting. Cuz I did make a list because this is so important. Okay. No, I don’t think I forgot anything, but the list I just do do wanna share with you. I just wanna reiterate what

Dr. Dave: (08:55)
Happened to me. Um, since I’ve started changing my life. Um, no more blood pressure medication I SLE. Oh yeah. Here’s a big one. I sleep through the night almost every single night sleep through the night. That means not even getting up in the middle of the night to pee. I mean, I had not done that in probably 10 to 20 years. Uh, it’s a wonderful feeling. Being able to sleep entirely through the night. What else did I do? Um, so zero anxiety. My injuries have pretty much healed. I mean, I can’t say that I’m never gonna get injured again, but the way my body was feeling and I felt like I always had some type of injury. Um, that feeling is pretty much gone right now. Um, my Lexapro is almost well. I’m almost weaned off of it. I’m taking like a fraction fraction fraction of a tablet every day, but that’s gonna be by maybe by the time you even see this video within a couple days, it’s gonna be, that’s gonna be totally done.

Dr. Dave: (09:45)
And of course, no benzos, no Valium, no nothing. I haven’t actually done that almost since I started microdosing probably within several weeks of starting to micro dose was the last time I ever felt the need to take any type of benzo. So, um, I would say that I worked on it. I worked hard and it was not overnight. I never want to sit here and say that this is an overnight fix, cuz it’s not, you have to be patient. You have to do the right things. But if you do all the right things and they all come together, hopefully you’ll be sitting like I am short time, relatively short time. Um, after you’re going through a horrible, messy funk and you’ll be able to sit here and say, Dr. Dave, guess what? I feel fantastic today. And several years ago I thought I was going to lose it.

Dr. Dave: (10:33)
So I, I hope you can say that I it’s a wonderful feeling. Um, I’m still human being. I still have emotions if I, if I something really bad happens to somebody near me or if I, I hear some really bad news, I still have emotions. It’s not like I’m no, I feel, I feel like a human being should feel. I have emotions when I need to, but pretty much during the course of every day and night, I don’t have that revved up anxiety, anxious feeling that I used to have and depressed feeling. It was really awful, which obviously weighed on different parts of my body, which I just shared with you. It was an awful time. I really thought I there’s a chance. I might not make it through that time, but I, again, I put so much work into this because my life is worth it.

Dr. Dave: (11:15)
And now I’m here to help not only myself, but to help others and share my story with, with you. So, um, let me know if you have any questions, put ’em in the comments, section questions, comments. I try to look at everything. I try to answer everything. If you have a good enough topic, if you good, have a good enough question. Sometimes I actually make a whole video on somebody’s question because it’s so good. Um, can’t guarantee it, but I, I try my best. I’m here for you. Um, remember this is not medical device’s friend talking to friend. If you haven’t subscribed yet, make sure you click that button. Cause I got a lot more to share with you. This is not over by any stretch of the imagination. It’s it’s a life story that I’m sharing for the purpose of helping others. I’ll talk to you later.

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Welcome back to Microdose U! Today Dr. Dave answers the question “Will mushrooms repair a toxic relationship?” Tune in as we dive into the answers!

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(00:00)
Can magic mushrooms fix a bad relationship. I’m gonna give you the answer right now, actually in a couple seconds. I’m Dr. Dave, I wanna introduce myself for those of you that are new to me and I’m on a morning hike, um, just, uh, around salt lake city, actually it’s called the living room hike and it’s a great hike. It’s a good thing to get up early in the morning and do this. It’s about 1.1 little over one mile up. It’s about a thousand foot vertical, so you’re gonna feel it. But once you get up here, you’re gonna reap the rewards. So, okay. Um, can, can magic mushrooms repair a bad relationship, whether it’s boyfriend, girlfriend, whether it’s, it doesn’t really matter the genders at all, whether it’s, uh, spouses, whatever. Um, my answer’s gonna probably surprise you a little bit. I’m gonna say, unless both parties are very serious and willing to get into the work that needs to be done to repair a relationship.

(00:55)
I’m gonna say the answer is no, what they will do for you, though, they will help you realize that you are in a bad relationship, something that’s toxic and you need to get out of it. That is if you’ve tried everything that needs to be tried to, to, to make things better. Um, but I was in, uh, my first marriage was 23 years long and the last 10 to 11 years of it were, were really, really bad. And, and I really wish I would’ve had magic mushrooms around to help guide me through the work that needed to be done to not only fixing it because fixing it was, um, I found, I figured it was impossible. Now it took me a long, long, long time to figure that fixing figure out that fixing was impossible. Um, the mushrooms would’ve helped me probably within several months or, or sooner realize how bad the situation was and to get out of it.

(01:46)
So if you are in a toxic relationship, I will tell you that. Um, and this is without even having you do magic mushrooms to figure this out, I would say, you need to get out and you need to get out now. No waiting. No, let’s see how things go. Let’s see if things get better. No, you know, in your heart, you know, in your heart, if things are not going well, and in a very decent percentage of relationships, people are just kind of waiting through, get going through the motions, hoping that things get better. Fig saying to themselves, this is what life is. You know, it’s not perfect, but you know something I’m here to tell you that is total. The reason I can tell you this confidently is because I’ve been through it all. I have been through this and trying to make the best out of a toxic relationship is going to get you nowhere, except for, uh, depression, anxiety, bad feelings every day are almost every day. Maybe not every day, but almost every day. And, and it’s not gonna work and you’re gonna reach an old age and you’re gonna pretty much look in the mirror and you’re gonna say, what in the did I do? Why did

(02:58)
I, why did I go through this? Why didn’t I get out of this? When I was younger, when I could, when I was more vibrant, when I could have found somebody else or found another direction in my life, I’m telling you guys gals, get with the program. I just actually was coaching somebody recently. And he, within the past few weeks, he messaged me and said, Dave, you saved my life. And that made me feel really good. But if also FA made me feel really bad, the toxicity that this person was going through, and he didn’t really see the forest from the trees and didn’t know what needed to be done, where it was very, very clear to me once I not only told him that, but pretty much, uh, made him, uh, become responsible for his actions as responsible for his life. Uh, he, he didn’t, he didn’t really know how to handle things or didn’t know really what direction to go in his life.

(03:55)
So I’m here to share with you. Um, you need to take action. You need to take action. Now, the plant medicine is only gonna help you so much and you need to take action and complete the job that maybe you’ve thought about starting, or, uh, really haven’t thought about starting. But now maybe watching me, you’re thinking about starting do it. It will be the next step to the rest of your life. And I promise you, uh, I don’t know you personally, but I promise you in most cases, it’s the thing that needs to be done. If you have any questions, make sure you just make, make them, put them in the comments. I’ll try to help as many of you as I possibly can until next time I’m up here in the living room. I really hope this was helpful. Get out there and do the work that you need to do. And don’t think the mushrooms alone are gonna make everything better. You, the mushrooms are gonna show you the way and help you make the changes in your life that are necessary. So next time, Dr. Dave, David magic, talk to you later.