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Speaker 1: (00:00)
How long will it take before magic mushrooms really start working and I feel better, I feel back the way I should feel? Well, this is the most commonly asked question I get, or at least one of the very most commonly asked questions. And we’re gonna talk about that right now.

Speaker 2: (00:31)
Right now.

Speaker 1: (00:33)
Hey there. Welcome back to Microdose You. Yeah, I’m Dr. Dave. Thank you so much for being with me. I really appreciate you. This, there’s a special episode for, um, you guys listening to my audio podcast. Every once in a while, I’m gonna throw in a special, it’s gonna be a little bit longer than what we, where we normally go. And I’ve got a lot of great information for you. And yes, um, among the most commonly asked questions, this is one of them. How long will it take before I see it start feeling better? Or how long did it take you Dr. Day before you started feeling better? And I will say this, So, um, this is not medical advice and a lot of this, I’m just sharing my own journey, but it doesn’t really matter how long it took me because everybody’s different. Everybody feels different.

Speaker 1: (01:15)
If you give somebody, or you give a group of people, let’s say a hundred people, the the same medication and the same dose at the same time, um, it will affect many people very differently. So there’s not one rule or not one thing I can tell you that say, Okay, you are definitely gonna feel better by day 14. Um, now I just made that one up, so don’t hold me to that. But, but, um, it, it, it really, it really does depend, and I wanna just share this with you right from the start. If you have not listened to my podcast episode called The Absolute Beginner’s Guide to Microdosing Magic Mushrooms, I, I would really like you to go listen to that as soon as you finish listening to this one, because it’s one of the most important and comprehensive podcast episodes I’ve ever made.

Speaker 1: (02:03)
And almost every single day I hear questions such as, Well, how much should I start with how much, how many grams or how many milligrams of magic mushrooms should I start? I’ve never done this before. It’s super important. There’s, I will tell you this, there’s not just one dose that you could say, everybody just start with this and you’re gonna be fine. So I go about systematically explaining what you should start with, but then how to evaluate to see, um, if and when you need to raise it and what you need to look for and things like that. So it’s very, very important. And I’m gonna rec recommend you listen to that, uh, the Absolute Beginner’s Guide to Microdosing Magic Mushrooms. But back to the original question, how long will it take before you start feeling better? So one thing I wanna share with you, and this is, this is really important, and I want you to really try to understand this.

Speaker 1: (02:59)
You did not start feeling bad in one day or in one week. Now, whatever you may have, what, uh, uh, not episode, what issues you might have. Um, be it, be it depression or anxiety or, uh, T s D or some type of maybe like eating disorder or, uh, uh, social anxiety or what, you know, the list is very long. You be, um, but, but for, but for one reason or another, you found yourself here. And likely, unless you’re just super, super curious about this topic, likely you are hurting in some way. You’ve got something going on, and probably it’s some form of depression and or anxiety. That’s the most common reason people gravitate to listen to me and to look into microdosing. Now again, there could be a million other reasons, but that’s the most common. And you, I will say, not only will they help you, but you’ll, you’ll get a lot of other benefits as well.

Speaker 1: (04:03)
You’ll just have a, a, a, a different outlook on, on life and what you see around you in the world and, and the universe. And, and it sounds kind of cheesy and maybe like new agey, but, but you really will have a different outlook. And probably, and, and this is a good thing, a, a different outlook than your friends who have never used magic mushrooms. I, now, I, I will tell you, I see things totally differently. I look at life differently. Uh, my days are very different in a, in a very, very good way. Really good way. But the original question, How long will all this take until I feel better? So again, getting back to my original thing, it, it didn’t happen overnight. It likely took year. You don’t realize this, but it likely took years and years and years of things going on in your life and in your body to get you to where you are now.

Speaker 1: (04:57)
So it may not be a quick fix. Now, there are some people that say, the first time I microdosed I started feeling better. And it was just, and it went, got better from there. It just kept getting better. And, and I will tell you, I am one of those people. I’ve been microdosing for one and a half years, and I can still remember the very first time I took a microdose, um, that day. And again, I say I, I do want to make this clear. It, it could have been some type of placebo effect, but I’ll take it. Cause I felt better. I felt better like right away that day. Now, I, I didn’t feel that I was like cured, but I felt better. I felt a lot better. And what that means is that my, if you can picture like a line on a graph.

Speaker 1: (05:47)
So from day one, after I microdose started getting a little better, so the graph starts going a little higher, higher, higher, day to day, better, better, better. Um, and then fast forward to one and a half years, I’m like, my line, or my point is, is way up there, way up there compared to where I started, I was able to get off of my, um, antidepressant. I was able to get off my occasional use of, um, benzo, cuz sometimes the antidepressant just didn’t cut it. And I’d have to take a benzo because that’s the only way I could really feel like acceptable during a day. So I was able to get off the benzo pretty quickly. And then nine months later I started weaning off of my antidepressant. Cuz I just felt really, really, really good. And my, again, thinking about it as a graph, I’m, I’m making signals with my hands, but you can’t see my hands be, this is audio.

Speaker 1: (06:39)
The graph, the chart is getting better, better, better, better, better, better going up, up, up, up, up. Now on the other hand, there are some people that start microdosing and they really don’t feel a big change right away. Now, some people, if that’s the case or just quitters, they just, This isn’t working, I’m gonna stop. I don’t recommend that because again, life is not about easy, quick fixes. Life is, it’s not real life. When you see people doing things and, and it looks like they’re like super successful or wealthy or they lost weight, um, you think they did it overnight. But in most cases now, there are some exceptions, but in most cases people have to work long and hard and not give up to get to where they want to be. And microdosing is not an exception. So your graph could be kind of like flatline for a little while.

Speaker 1: (07:35)
Maybe there’s not a difference, I’m just making this up. It maybe for the first month, there’s not a big difference. Maybe it just kind of goes on and on and you’re still taking your, your medication, whatever that might be, um, along with your microdosing. But you don’t really see much of a difference. And your line is straight, straight, straight, straight, straight. But then there comes a point where, again, making this up, but let’s say one month later or two months later, you, something kicks in, you say, Wow, I’m really starting to feel better. And so then picture the graph, it starts going up. Uh, it, it was flat for a long time, but then it starts going up, up, up and better and better. And then over time it’s really better. Your graph is way up there. Now that’s not to say there couldn’t be, Somebody asked me, I think I did a livestream last night actually, and somebody asked me, uh, Dr.

Speaker 1: (08:22)
Dave, was there a point in your microdosing for the one and a half years so far, was there a point where your graph or the way you felt started going down a little bit and then went back up again? Were there ever any like really tough times? And it was a really good question and I had to think about that for a second. But in the one and a half years that I was, um, microdosing, uh, no, it, it never, once it started getting better, it never got worse. And then came and kind of like the stock market, like the stock market generally goes up, but then there are bear markets and times where there’s some type of something going on in the world. And it goes down. Like with Covid for example, the stock market was going up, up, up and then Covid, um, it went way down, way down.

Speaker 1: (09:11)
But then a few months later, maybe within six months, it started going way up again. So the overall net effect was up, up, up, up, up. But there were like peaks and valleys. It went down sometimes too with mine. No, it really ne with my microdosing, no, it never really went down. But that’s not to say that yours won’t. I’ve spoken to people that sometimes they just have a bad week, you know, we’re still human beings and, and things happen and we have feelings and, and um, although there’s a, a general sense of rewiring or rebooting of the brain, which is a good thing and rewiring in a good way. But there are setbacks sometimes and things that can happen. And sometimes your graph may go down a little bit, dip down a little bit, but then it will recover and go up, up, up further than it’s ever been.

Speaker 1: (10:00)
So I’m speaking of stock market language and financial language. I’m very bullish , those the view that are, you know, financial people, I’m very bullish, um, very positive about what magic mushrooms can do to what they’ve not only done for me, but what they can do for you. And anybody that’s listening or, or, or you know, your friends or family, whoever it might be, I am really, really convinced that these are the answer to not only feeling better, but to have a totally, totally different outlook on life. So again, getting back to our question, this is super important. How long does it take? Well, again, like I said, it depends, but I wanna share this with you in my, during my, uh, one and a half year journey. Cause that’s where I am right now. A little bit over one and a half years now, cuz time keeps marching on, it doesn’t stop for us, right?

Speaker 1: (10:54)
Um, during that journey, I’ve also worked on other things. So it’s not just a matter of me or anybody else just eating mushrooms or consuming mushrooms several times per week and then kicking back and say, Oh, everything’s gonna be fine. No, you, I looked into a lot of other things. First of all, I did continue seeing my doctor, my psychiatrist for my mental health. I continued seeing him. But I will tell you, it got to the point where we both looked at each other and said, and he said to me, even, and I’ve talked about this earlier, he said to me, Dave, what you’ve learned and what you’ve accomplished from these magic mushrooms from microdosing, it will, it would’ve taken you. And it takes my patients years and years and sometimes decades or more to get where you’ve been with the rewiring of your brain from the magic mushrooms.

Speaker 1: (11:51)
And that made me feel so good because again, I’ve talked about this before, but, but talk therapy, I think, you know, it could be good for some people. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, but it’s very, very slow and it’s usually best used as an adjunct to something else because talk therapy alone, I, I, I’m sorry, I’ve just never seen talk therapy alone. Like totally turned somebody’s life around and now they’re feeling better every day just, just because of talk therapy. Again, it can help, but it’s not the, it’s not the do all end all. It’s, it’s really not. So in my journey with microdosing magic mushrooms, I looked into so many things. Um, I, I, there’s, there’s no ambassador for your health better than you are. And for my health, there’s no ambassador better than I am. Now, I have a team of doctors that I work with, one of ’em being a psychiatrist, but I also work with my family practice, you know, my primary care.

Speaker 1: (12:48)
Um, you know, I’ve got, I’ve got different doctors that I see if I need them for certain things. Um, and by the way, this is a real quick aside, but this is, this is, again, this is important. Um, I threw up, No, that doesn’t sound good. I didn’t throw up, I threw, I threw a question up. , I threw a question on my YouTube channel. Um, I think it was just yesterday. Yesterday, the day before. Um, the question was, have you shared with your doctor your microdosing journey, basically, have you told your doctor that you’re using matching mushrooms? And what do you think the percentage was of people that, um, answer answered that and said, Yes, I’ve shared this with my doctor. Do you have a guess? What would your guess be if you had to guess what percentage of people that kind of in our group here that follow me and listen to the podcast and watch the YouTube channel and, um, or on the Facebook, by the way, Facebook group.

Speaker 1: (13:39)
Um, I started this, um, a week or two ago and it’s really growing. And, um, in between episodes here, if you want to hang out with me and I’ll answer questions, um, I’ll put a link to that Facebook group in the show notes here, because it’s, it’s really something that’s, that’s working out very well. And it’s a place where we can all kind of hang out together and we can discuss things and, and talk about, you know, issues and answer questions. It’s, it’s really great. It’s called microdose You. Um, it is a group, it’s not a page, it’s a group on Facebook. And again, just click the link in the show notes and you’ll get right there. And, um, and that’ll be great to hang out with you, but only, okay, what was your guess? What percentage of people share this journey with their doctor?

Speaker 1: (14:24)
If you guessed 50%, five, zero, or 50%, you’re wrong. Guess what? It’s 15 to 16%. Last I looked at the poll, it’s still ongoing, but last I looked at the poll, it was right around 15 to 16% of you are sharing this with your doctor. Personally, I think that’s not a good move because, um, so I shared this with two of my doctors already, and the response I got from them, from them was, was nothing short of super, super positive. Any doctor these days, even though yes, it is illegal in most areas that are, I’m reaching here, it’s illegal to use psilocybin. I get that, but forgetting about that first, second, most doctors understand that this is a, an up and coming, uh, quickly emerging, um, way to treat mental issues such as, uh, depression. Uh, you, you know, the whole thing, depression, anxiety, the whole, the list goes on.

Speaker 1: (15:28)
I’ve said it a million times, you know that, um, why wouldn’t you discuss this with your doctor? Why wouldn’t you tell him or her? Is it that you’re embarrassed, afraid illegal? They’re not allowed, they’re not going to turn you in. They’re not allowed to do that. This is confidential. It’s patient doctor confidentiality, and they’re not allowed to call the police on, and nor nor would they, why would they do that? Um, I’ve had great, great, um, conversations with my doctors about this, and they’re, they’re all in and they, even though they might not do it themselves, they understand it. Um, they’re positive about it. They’re, they’re, they’re in favor of it. Um, and if you, if you have a doctor that you tell that you’re doing this, and the doctor, um, says, Well, no, I don’t want you doing this. Um, I would ask why point blank.

Speaker 1: (16:20)
Um, and I would, if they, if they’re adamant about that, and if you don’t feel it’s a good reason, like you just sh I just don’t think it’s good. You shouldn’t do it. It’s a drug, you shouldn’t do it, then I would look for another doctor, because most doctors that are really up on this type of stuff, um, understand it and see that this has tremendous potential. So for a doctor to say, No, this is crazy. This is, uh, this is something you need to stay away from, it’s snake oil, it don’t believe it, it’s new age, then I would, I would probably not go to that doctor. I would want a doctor that’s more progressive and understands what’s, what’s going on. So what did I work on during my microdosing and what do I still work on? Um, something that’s very, very important is sleep.

Speaker 1: (17:12)
And nobody really talks about that. That much mean people, Oh, you gotta get a good night’s sleep. But let me tell you something, sleep is really, really important and extremely serious. If you’re not getting not only the right amount of hours of sleep, but the proper sleep, meaning the proper amount of deep sleep, um, you don’t ha you’re not waking up due to some obstruction like sleep apnea, which by the way, I have, I was diagnosed with that and I never knew it. And so I’ve really looked into my sleep and learned a lot and worked with it. And I am sleeping through the night now at the very most. I’ll get up once in the middle of the night to go use the bathroom, but generally speaking, I sleep through the night. Um, seven and a half hours is like the goal. It’s like the, it’s the sweet spot.

Speaker 1: (17:58)
So eight is okay, and seven is okay, but if you’re sleeping less than seven or more than eight, it’s actually not good for your health. Like you would think that, oh, if, if seven and a half or eight hours of sleep is really good, if I get 10, I’m gonna be super healthy. No, it doesn’t work like that. It’s actually, it’s actually quite bad for your health. Look that up. Look that up. Um, people are shown to have more heart problems, um, and, and things like that if you, if you get too much sleep. So check that out. But, but my point is, I’ve been working on a tremendous amount of things in my own, for my own health in my, with my body. Sleep is a major one. I’m now using a a C P A P machine. Uh, it’s actually a, a slightly different version of a C pap called an as V.

Speaker 1: (18:44)
Um, which assists me during the night when I would stop breathing because of my sleep apnea. And it’s been a game changer. Now, I’m not saying that you have sleep apnea, I don’t know, but I will tell you this, 80%, it’s very prevalent, at least here in the us and I’m, I have no reason to believe it’s not prevalent all over the world because we’re all humans come from the same place. Um, 80% of the cases of sleep apnea, 80% are undiagnosed. That means out of all the people on the planet that have sleep apnea, only 20% know about it. And probably a small percentage of that actually do something about it. It’s really scary. And obstructive sleep apnea or, or sleep apnea in general, whether, whether it’s obstructive or uh, central or whatever it might be, um, is a very, very serious issue that many people have that don’t know it.

Speaker 1: (19:39)
How do you know if you have it? We’ll, talk to your doctor and, and just ask for a sleep study. Usually insurance covers it and it’s, it will tell you a lot about your sleep and about your health. Super important. Um, should everybody have one? I I don’t know the answer to that, but certainly if you’ve got a couple extra pounds on you, if you feel that you’ve got some anxiety and depression, if your blood pressure is up a little bit, um, or a lot, um, if you’re sleepy during the day, sometimes if you feel that you have to, you’re tired, you, uh, if you feel like you almost wanna fall asleep behind the wheel, just all then I would, I would get tested. I would have a test for sleep apnea. Talk to your doctor about that. But I worked on that. I’ve been working on my eating program, but what I eat, what I put into my body, um, exercise, um, I’ve been doing a, um, a mental exercise every sing a men, you know, I do physical exercise, a lot of that, but I do a mental exercise every morning.

Speaker 1: (20:40)
Um, and I start off when I wake up in the morning, uh, with a very positive mantra, and I say something like, It’s a good day. It’s a beautiful day, it’s a positive day. I am positive and I will stay positive. I am centered and I will stay centered. And I have a shield around me protecting me from negative and bad. I would say that 10 times to myself or out loud, it’s better out loud. Or I would write it down every single morning. Now I don’t do it every morning now because I’ve done it so much. I’m, I’ve kind of flipped that switch and I, it’s one of the reasons I have a totally different outlook on life Now, try that. Go back and rewind. If, if rewind is the right word these days, I don’t even know. Go back to that where I said that and mark it somehow, or write it down and try saying that every single morning.

Speaker 1: (21:31)
And it’s very powerful. If you at least write it down once, it’s very, very easy. You’ll, you’ll memorize it in a second. It’s a good day. It’s a beautiful day. It’s a positive day. I am positive and I will stay positive. I am centered and I will stay centered. And I have a shield around me protecting me from negative and bad. If you do just that every morning along with your microdosing or you don’t even have to microdose to do that, you will, in about 30 days, you will flip this switch that you never knew existed. You’ll feel totally different about things. And also it really does help if you first thing in the morning along with that, well, you can’t do it exactly the same time, but either before or right after. Uh, watch something very funny on a video. Watch something funny, like, like some type of comedy, some type of comic, some type of cartoon that might be funny.

Speaker 1: (22:22)
Um, just for five or 10 minutes, that’s all. And if you don’t have that kind of time to put into your health every single morning, then what kind of results are you expecting? Are you expecting this just all magic and it’s just gonna, you eat a little magic mushroom, it’s gonna, everything’s gonna change in your life? Well, it’s gonna help you. The magic mushroom will help you a lot. I don’t wanna downplay that, but you’ve gotta do the work alongside of it to get better, to feel better. How would it feel to wake up every morning and you get outta bed and you just kind of float through your day in a, in a very good way. Like just there’s, there are no, there no like terrible issues that come up. There’s nothing that’s bothering you. How would you, how would you like that? Now again, we’re, we’re all human.

Speaker 1: (23:11)
And if like somebody, for example, if somebody very close to you passes away, you’re going to be sad. And that’s totally fine. We have emotions. You want to be sad, you’re gonna feel that, but you’re not gonna let your inner voice, the things that are bothering you now, you’re not gonna let that inner voice and all these crazy things, you’re not gonna let that bother you anymore, ever. And this is the start to you feeling better every single day for the rest of your life. So, circling back, Dr. Dave, but how long does it take? I don’t know it, When it happens, it happens, and you will know it, it will happen. So when it happens, please drop me a line. Let me know. Even if it’s a year from now, I’m here, I’ll be here. I’m God willing, I’ll be here. , I’m not that old.

Speaker 1: (24:06)
I’m old, but I’m not that old . So my, my email address is, uh, is, what is it? It’s, it’s run Dr. Dave at Gmail run. Dr. Dave, it’s r u n d r d a v e, all one word. Of course run. Dr. Dave all case. I don’t think it’s case sensitive either. But, um, run Dr. dave@gmail.com. Love to hear from you. Just let me know how you’re feeling, let me know how you, how this is resonating with you. And, um, before I leave you, just something super important. If you listen all the way, you’re engaged, I mean, I don’t mean engaged to be married. I mean, you’re en you’re engaged with me in, in, in this, in this topic. You, you want to do something. So one way you could just help me out a little bit. It’ll take you five seconds. Go on to wherever you’re getting your podcasts, Apple podcasts or whatever, and just gimme a, gimme your review, gimme your rating and review.

Speaker 1: (24:59)
It really does help the show and it does help more when you do that, especially if it’s a good one, which I hope it is. Um, but I want it to be honest. But, but if you do that, and when you do that, it just helps the podcast, uh, grow a little bit more by they, they show it to more people. If it’s got a better rating, more rating, more people listening, show it to more people. And that all that means is I can help more people like you that are hurting, that need help, that don’t know where to turn to that just need something in their lives that to change them and make them feel better. That’s all I ask. So that was it for today. I, I hope you enjoy and thanks for being with me. Thanks for sticking till the end. I am Dr. Dave, this is Microdose you. I’ll talk to you soon.

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Here is the transcript to today’s episode:

Speaker 1: (00:00)
Hey, there is Dr. Dave, and I’m gonna be sharing with you today why you should not be afraid to microdose or you should not be concerned about using magic, mushrooms, psilocybin, et cetera. We’re gonna get into all of that today. Thanks so much for being with me. I really appreciate you. By the way, this is a special edition of my podcast. Um, it’s coming out on a day. I usually release the podcast, the audio shows on Fridays. It’s coming out a little bit earlier. I just wanna test this and see how it goes. I throw in a special edition for you, special episode for you. See how you like it. It’s gonna be a little bit longer than most cause I’m gonna give you a lot of information. So let’s dig in right now. And by the way, if you like what you hear either now or when you get a chance, the end of the show, I’ll go into the, um, go into your podcast app and just give me a, uh, a good, honest review.

Speaker 1: (00:50)
It really helps the show. And I’m here to just share my personal story with people across the globe because I’ve, I’ve found out that, um, not only did I have some issues with depression and anxiety and PTSD and and things like that, but I found out that so many people, so many of you have issues that are very similar to mine. And even if they’re not exactly the same, I am a, um, really, really firm believer that microdosing magic mushrooms is the answer. It was for me. I’m not special. I’m not, I’m no different than you probably, although everybody’s different. I’m, I’m, you know, I’m not that much different. We’re all not, we’re all not that much different from each other. It will work for you. It’s, it’s, but you have to do it. But number one, you can’t be worried or afraid. Um, and that’s one of the biggest reasons that people read about it.

Speaker 1: (01:45)
Listen to podcasts, watch YouTube videos, and, and do a lot of research. But then for some reason, they just never start. And I’m here to address a lot of the reasons why people don’t get started. And also, um, why you should not be afraid to get started. Because there’s really, it’s, it’s actually pretty simple and there’s nothing to it. But you do have to know a few things for sure. So one of the reasons, um, that you or possibly other people do not, I mean, they look into it so much and they wanna do it, but they just don’t get started, is because they’re afraid. Um, they could be afraid of, or you, you could be afraid of several different things, one thing. But the most common things that people are worried about, well, number one, let’s just tackle this one right away. Um, it’s in most, in most places, I’m recording here from Utah in the United States, in most places, it is a felony.

Speaker 1: (02:38)
It’s a fe, it’s federally illegal. It is, um, you, you, you, you, it’s, it’s, you’ll get in trouble. You’ll get in trouble if you get caught. But having said that, I think if you are just using a little bit to microdose and you have a reliable source, um, and you’re doing this in the privacy, privacy of your own, own home, uh, the, the chance of anything really happening, I mean, I can’t say it’s impossible, but the chance, if you’re super careful like I am, if you’re super careful, uh, you’re gonna be fine with that. So the, um, oh, I don’t, as you know, if you’re been listening to me for a while, I don’t discuss sourcing here. I don’t source at all. Um, please don’t ask me where to get magic mushrooms or psilocybin or anything. Like, don’t, don’t ask me cuz I’m not gonna be able to share because I want to keep this show clean.

Speaker 1: (03:29)
Um, meaning I don’t want to tread on anything or cross any lines that make things illegal. So, you know, I it’s totally fine that I can relate my story to you all, and I’m happy to do that. And I’m being very transparent and I’ll share anything. If you, if have a question, I’ll answer your questions. Um, and by the way, if you want to email me, my email address is run dr dave gmail.com. It’s simply rundrdave at gmail. I’m going to be setting up, um, I’m working on setting up a Facebook group that we can all jump on because I know sometimes it’s, it’s hard to, you know, might be not a simple thing to communicate with me or maybe other like-minded people that, that are in this community. And I’m, I’m going to be setting up a Facebook group.

Speaker 1: (04:17)
It’s most likely going to simply be called microdose You. And that’s the letter you micro, micro microdose you. And that will give us like a, um, a place, a safe place, and it’ll be a private group that’ll give us a safe place where we can kind of hang out in between shows and talk and ask questions and answer questions and the like and things like that. So, but getting back to again, um, number one is, um, you have to find a reliable source. And going on Instagram is not finding a reliable source because 99.999% of the people on Instagram that tell you that they know everything and they’re gonna help you and they’re gonna coach you, and they’re gonna be, they’re gonna be taking your money. That’s what they’re gonna be doing. If you don’t believe me, try it out and you will lose your money.

Speaker 1: (05:07)
And please, I won’t say I told you so, but please be super careful. You need to speak to people and you need to talk to people that either you know personally or somebody that you’re extremely close with and you trust knows personally. There are no other excuses and no other, um, reasons or no other ways to, to get this. But I will tell you this, it’s very, very easy. Very easy, okay? So, um, let, let me so we got that out of the way. Um, you’re, you’re not sure where to get it and we kind of got it outta the way. Cause I, although I can’t tell you where to get it, you know, now that, um, it’s, it’s not difficult. And just do some research. And if you’re not still not sure, do a Google search for, for example, something like, um, psychedelic therapy coach followed by your name, um, I’m sorry, your town, your town or your city.

Speaker 1: (06:00)
Um, there are psychedelic coaches in almost every city in town. Um, some of them are therapists, some of them are life coaches. Some of them are just self-proclaimed people that can help people on a psychedelic journey. But the reason you’re doing that, again, if you’re not sure where to get, where to source your, your medicine from, is, um, these coaches or these psychedelic therapists, um, can generally help you. You may have to pay for a session or two to go in and meet with them and talk, but, um, in the end, I’m pretty sure you will be able to find somebody that, um, will, will help you reach that goal of finding your medicine if you have not been able to do it on your own or with the help of a friend or friends or maybe other communities. Okay? So we got that part outta the way.

Speaker 1: (06:48)
Now, most likely, what you’re concerned about or what you’re afraid of is what’s going to happen when I take this psychedelic medicine. I mean, I could flip out, I could have a bad trip, I could have psychosis, I could, I could have suicide, suicidal, thought I could just kill my, okay, well, let’s get this out of the way as well. That’s not gonna happen. We’re talking, first of all, it generally does not happen with a regular macro dose that people take, you know, larger doses like, uh, many grams, but it’s not going to happen. Remember, we’re talking about microdosing. We’re talking about a dose that is basically around a 10th, a 10th or a 20th of what somebody would take to let’s say trip or go to a party or recreationally have, um, a good time with this plant-based medicine, which I’m not even recommending necessarily.

Speaker 1: (07:46)
I’m rec, I am a micro doser and I’m using this in a serious way as a plant medicine to rewire and rework the neurons in my, the neuro pathways in my brain to get rid of this anxiety and depression and PTSD and worry and all kinds of things. Now I’ve been doing this for a year and a half medicine’s done its job. I feel great, I feel fantastic, and I felt fantastic fairly early on. Although over the months and months leading up to the year and a half, I could tell it was always getting better. But on the very first day, I, I like you, I didn’t know what to expect. I mean, I grew up in the sixties and seventies. I graduated high school in the early seventies. So I’m, you know, I’m a little bit on the older side and I’ve had a lot of experience with, uh, marijuana.

Speaker 1: (08:40)
I mean, I, I started using marijuana recreationally, um, back in high school. And to this day, I still use it responsibly, uh, when I want to. Um, never been a, never been a drug abuser. I’ve never been addicted to anything. I don’t use alcohol at all. Uh, a little bit here and there. If my wife and I are having a nice dinner, I might drink a little bit of sake or, or soju, which is a Korean, uh, liquor. But, um, I, I really drink very, very little alcohol. But I, one thing I never really got into in, back in the day, back in the high school days in college, and even after that, I never got into psychedelics. And I had friends that were using mushrooms and LSD and probably other things. And, and you know, I heard all kinds of stories. There was a guy in my high school class, I think it was 11th or 12th grade guy actually took acid.

Speaker 1: (09:31)
I’m not sure, I’m not sure if LSD actually, I’m not sure if LSD or, uh, some type of, uh, I, I’m not, It was some type of psychedelic, I’m assuming it was lsd, but I’m not sure. And the guy, the guy flipped out. He somehow ended up in, he just never showed up at school again. He, he, the word was, he ended up in a, in a mental institution for, for a while. Now he’s, okay, now I still, I’m still in touch with him, but he was put away for, I don’t remember how long. It seemed like, it seemed like weeks back then. It could have been months. I’m just not sure. He just, he just never came back to school. And I think the next year, if this was 11th grade, he may have come back, but I don’t really remember much. But this is a, uh, it’s not the normal story and it won’t happen to you because number one, he was taking large doses.

Speaker 1: (10:18)
He probably did not know what he was doing. He probably did not have his set and setting right and, and just all kinds of things were going into this. But again, he was not microdosing. Uh, the good news is, even if you were to take larger doses, there’s no real, um, lethal amount and you can’t overdose. You’re not gonna, you’re not gonna die from eating mushrooms unless you take a poisonous mushroom. So you have to be careful that you’re sourcing, of course. But if your sourcing is good and reliable and ethical, you’re, you’re not gonna be, you’re not gonna be worried about that. But again, you’re gonna be microdosing. So you’re gonna be taking anywhere from 50 milligrams, which is 0.05 grams. Now remember, you’ve gotta be good at metric and metric conversion because you gotta be able to think fast. So 50 milligrams is like the very, very, very low end of a microdose.

Speaker 1: (11:06)
It’s 0.05 grams. Um, and it could go, a microdose could go up to, um, about 250 milligrams, which is 0.25 grams a quarter of a gram. Um, and some people would say, Well, even if you stretch it up to 0.3 grams, 300 milligrams. And when I, when I give those weights, I’m talking about dried ground up mushrooms. That’s generally the way we use mushrooms for a microdose dried, totally dried ground up, like in a coffee grinder and usually put into capsules or tea at tea bags. Um, if you have a source, a lot of sources will do that for you already. But some people will sell you just, um, the mushrooms, the dried mushrooms, and then you, you have to grind them and put ’em in a grinder or, um, use a mortar and pestle or something to grind them up into find, uh, little, uh, find little, uh, particles and, is that the right word?

Speaker 1: (12:01)
Particles, Find little powder or whatever you wanna say . Um, um, and then you put them in a teabag or, um, or, or, or, uh, capsules. But again, I i, I did a whole video, uh, not I, I did a whole podcast on, uh, on this and it’s called The Absolute Beginner’s Guide to Microdosing Magic Mushrooms. It takes you from start to finish, uh, on, if you’re total beginner on how to start dosing with magic mushrooms, what, what dose would you start at? How long you should do it, How many days on, how many days off it tell, it gives all that information I’m thinking about in the near future doing an update on that. But right now, um, it’s totally good. It’s accurate, it’s up to date. I just wanted to kind of do a newer one to kind of get more out there for people.

Speaker 1: (12:50)
But the one I’ve recorded a few months ago is, um, very, very accurate and good. And it gets a lot of listens on this podcast here. So see if you can find it. It’s called The Absolute Beginner’s Guide to Microdosing Magic Mushrooms. Okay, so we got this out of the way that you are not going to have a bad trip. You’re not gonna be in the hospital, nothing’s, you’re not gonna get anxious. Nothing bad’s gonna happen to you because again, it’s a microdose. Now, when I first took my very first microdose, now remember I was on an ssri, I was on Lexapro, uh, I was actually on 20 milligrams a day, which is a high end dose of Lexapro. So when I took my very first microdose, I didn’t really know how I was gonna feel. I wasn’t scared. I mean, I wasn’t worried or wasn’t anxious about that, but I j I knew that it was not gonna harm me.

Speaker 1: (13:46)
And I knew that if anything, I wasn’t positive yet. But I knew, if anything, it was the beginning of my journey to stop being anxious, stop having this anxiety, stop having this depression, control the PTSD and any other things and get just, and just basically get me more motivated and, and have, enjoy my life more. Cause I was getting into ruts where I just, sometimes I just didn’t feel like could even do anything. It was horrible. So I took this very first dose and just from memory, I’m pretty sure it was 0.2 grams. It might have been 0.25, but, so let’s say it was anywhere in the range of 0.2 to 0.25, which again is 200 milligrams, 250 milligrams, dried magic mushrooms, um, in a capsule. So I swallowed the capsule, drank some water with it. Of course, it’s always good to drink a lot of water.

Speaker 1: (14:38)
And I sat back and waited. And remember, it’s a micro dose, so you’re not, so things aren’t gonna really just start happening. Like, I’m not gonna start seeing colors. I’m not gonna go on a trip. I’m not gonna be like, uh, like psychedelic a I’m, I’m not gonna be high. It’s just, it’s a microdosed. So what I did, I, um, after I drank some water with it, a good amount of water, I turned on the TV and I turned on something. I, I, I can’t remember which show was, but it’s, it’s really funny. I remember within a half an hour to an hour I was watching TV in my living room and some commercial came on and I just started laughing and laughing and I don’t know why, why I was laughing cuz the commercial wasn’t really like, particularly funny. But I just, I just started laughing at this commercial and then I thought, well, you know, okay, I know that magic mushrooms or psychedelics or special psilocybin is supposed to you, It can make you giddy, it can make you laugh at things that maybe aren’t even funny.

Speaker 1: (15:36)
You just kind of go into these laughing fits. So I don’t know whether that was like a preconceived notion that, um, I knew that was probably supposed to happen. So it made me like, almost like a placebo. So it made me laugh. I don’t know. I’ll never know. To this day, um, my guess is that it was probably like a placebo. Like I just started laughing cuz I knew that maybe that was the right thing to do, but I really did feel like laughing. I really felt that this was funny. And then after that, I took a walk. Um, I’ve got this beautiful park right across the street from my house. So I went and took a walk in the park with my iPhone with that has music on it and my, um, earbuds or headphones. I can’t remember which ones I used that particular day.

Speaker 1: (16:20)
But I went on top of this hill in the park and I just laid down and I put my earbuds in and I put on Sergeant Pepper by the Beatles. You’re most likely familiar with that album. It’s from 1967 and it’s a really nice, like psychedelic work of art. It’s just a beautiful album anyway, and my feeling is they absolutely wrote this and, and played this music while they were on some type of psychedelics. I mean, it’s, it’s so clear. But what I realized though, and this is, remember, this is the first microdose ever. I had never taken a psychedelic before. What I realized is I was laying down in the park listening to this album, this beautiful album on in my, through my earbuds. Um, I figured out that this, The Beatles absolutely recorded this album for people to listen to while on psychedelic drugs or plant medicine, a psychedelic plant medicine, I should say that’s a better word, plant medicine, drugs, drugs, sound bad.

Speaker 1: (17:24)
Plant medicine sounds a lot better. And that’s what this is. It, it, it’s natural plant medicine. It’s not a pharmaceutical. It comes from the ground naturally. You don’t have to alter it in any way. So there, so I had this new, uh, kind of like reborn feeling about Sergeant Pepper. It just sounded so wonderful. Then I went on a little, little walk and I was, as I’m walking around, I’m, I’m noticing traffic around my area and around the park. And, and something looked a little bit different about the traffic. Like, I’m thinking like all these cars on the street, like where are they going? This is just like where like people are driving. Are they really going anywhere? Do they know where they’re going? It was just like, kind of like a weird feeling that probably a weird feeling that you have when you’re on like a heavier trip.

Speaker 1: (18:16)
But again, I don’t know whether this was a placebo effect at all, but I was really enjoying my time from laughing at the commercial to listening to the music of, uh, The Beatles and Sergeant Pepper to noticing, um, traffic and pedestrians walking around. It was beautiful. And one other thing I noticed, well probably notice a lot of things, but one other thing I noticed that day was, I normally back then, I normally like to take a nap sometime early afternoon, middle of the day. I just would get tired sometimes. And I, I like to take a nap. But for some reason on that day, I did not have any urge whatsoever to take a nap. I felt like maybe more energetic than anything. And I was going still going through some, some, some health issues back then because I was still working on my, my sleep apnea.

Speaker 1: (19:04)
Um, I was on some blood pressure medication, to which by the way, I’m, I’m pretty much off of just about all medication especi and I was on, I was on Lexapro, which is, uh, you know, antidepressant and ssri. And, um, even though this is beyond the scope of today’s episode, um, I’m off of, I’m off of everything pretty much, except I just went back on a, a very, very low dose of a, um, of a, of a diuretic, a blood pressure med just, just to make sure I keep my blood pressure in check. Um, but nothing like I used to be on. So that happened almost from the beginning, like within the first month, within the first month of microdosing, I felt very comfortable. Um, and, and my monitoring my own blood pressure and, um, weaning myself off of my blood pressure medication. I mean, and along with, uh, talking to my doctor about it too, I just really wouldn’t do this without talking to my, my family, uh, doctor, my family practitioner about this.

Speaker 1: (20:02)
But, um, she was all on board. My blood pressure was low enough to discontinue the meds. So my first experience was a really, really good one. I mean, there was, there was nothing negative whatsoever. And again, I didn’t feel high. I didn’t feel trippy. Um, I could totally function. I didn’t drive that day just because I wasn’t sure what was going to happen, but I absolutely could have driven. And then the next day I, I did the same thing because I was trying to do, I think back then I was trying to do three days on and two days off. This will be explained again, this will be explained a lot more in the, um, episode that’s called the Absolute Beginner’s Guide to Microdosing Magic Mushrooms. But, um, I did a pattern back then where I really pretty much don’t do now, and I, I just pretty much did three days on dosing for three days in a row, then taking two days off of not dosing and just doing a lot of journaling and, and thinking and, and uh, exercise and walking and things like that.

Speaker 1: (21:01)
And then I’d get back into my three days on and two days off. Well, here we are a year and a half later, and if you have any concerns now, I know this is just me, but if you have any concerns at all about I just am worried, I’m afraid hell, I’m gonna feel, I’m telling you again, please don’t worry, it’s a microdose. Micro means extremely small. If you were taking 2, 3, 4, 5 grams, I’d say, well, you need to do a little more research and thinking and make sure you’re in a, a good place and you’re set and setting or perfect and, and maybe you have a trip sitter, things like that. But you’re not, this show is called Microdose U for a reason because it’s a microdose, it’s tiny, it’s not gonna cause a problem. And here’s another thing I will share with you if it does cause a problem, which it won’t, and a a common problem.

Speaker 1: (22:05)
Some people say they do get a little bit of anxiety, I still feel that’s probably more of a placebo and they’re just worried too much. But even if you do get a little bit of anxiety, it wears off in a few hours. You don’t have to worry. You just, you can lay down and take a nap or, or, or listen to some music or something. It’s, it’s, it’s gonna wear off. This is not a permanent effect. If you take a microdose capsule, it’s, it’s not a permanent effect. You’re going to be fine. Now, one of another one of the most commonly asked questions to me and to other people that are, you know, thinking about microdosing is, but Dr. Dave, I’m on a, in antidepressant. I’m on an ssri, which stands for, what it stands for, stands for selective serotonin reuptake in her inhibitor, which does compete, the SSRI and the psilocybin actually compete for the same receptor to get, that’s a way to get into your, into your cell, into your body.

Speaker 1: (23:09)
They compete for the same receptor. So it can be argued. And it is probably true that if you are on an Ss i, it can block or compete or mitigate the amount of, um, psilocybin that’s gonna be able to get into your body as well. Now having said that, I am not going to recommend, and again, this is not medical advice I’m giving you, This is friend talking to friend, I’m your friend and I’m sharing my personal story with you. Um, you know, you might wanna do more research if you feel the need to, but again, I’m, this is, I’m not giving you official medical advice. It’s what I did. But I, I don’t recommend just getting off of your SSRI or an antidepressant because that’s not safe thing to do because you’re on it for some reason. And when you do get off of it and it leaves your bloodstream and leaves your body, you’re eventually going to be having those same symptoms, most likely for anxiety, depression, and probably more.

Speaker 1: (24:09)
So, um, what I did is I started microdosing while I was on my Lexapro and I would just do it the same way as if I weren’t. I I, you know, I started with 200 milligrams in my, in my episode, the Absolute Beginner’s guide. I, I tell you to start with less just to titrate up. But I was doing it. I was microdosing kind of pretending that I wasn’t on anything else, but I was, and that’s, it’s not dangerous. Um, but I wanted to do both at the same time. Now, there came a point in time, which is probably about eight or nine months after I started microdosing, that I started weaning off of my Lexapro and I was able to actually totally discontinue it. And I’ve been off of Lexapro now for, uh, a good a, a good eight months. And I feel really, really great.

Speaker 1: (25:00)
And I attribute that to the microdosing of matching mushrooms because once you get off of Lexapro, it’s a pharmaceutical. Once you get off of it, um, after a few weeks, your body is back to the way it was before Lexapro. In other words, Lexapro is not a cure and I’m using Lexapro, but you can substitute whatever you might be on Paxil. Um, you know, and would just substitute your, the name of your antidepressant or anti-anxiety medication, whatever it might be. Once you get off of it, you’re back to the way you were now. Psilocybin or magic mushrooms were my saving grace because they came in and did the work to rewire my brain so I no longer needed the antidepressant. But you can’t just go getting off antidepressants cuz you feel better because of course you feel better, you’re on them, you’re taking them. But until you substitute something else, in my case, and it sounds like probably in your case, is gonna be psilocybin magic mushrooms until you substitute something else that’s gonna work differently.

Speaker 1: (25:58)
You can’t just discontinue talk to your doctor about that. It’s not a good idea. It’s not safe. So I think I’ve mentioned three things so far. The three reasons why you might be worried about starting it, maybe haven’t started, and those are sourcing, you’re not sure where to get it. Number two, you’re not sure how you’re gonna feel and you’re afraid you’re gonna go into like a psychedelic frenzy. And number three, you might be on some other type of medication, namely an SSRI or antidepressant and you’re, you’re worried and not sure if you have to get off of it. So I hope these three main reasons. Now, there are other reasons why people don’t microdose and, and a a, a big one is just simply procrastinating. Some people are just so good at doing the research and looking into it and spending all their time talking to other people and watching videos and listening to podcasts.

Speaker 1: (26:51)
But then in the end they say, eh, you know, I don’t know, it’s not for me, but that, that’s procrastinating and putting something off that really could help you quite a bit. Now if you don’t wanna do it, don’t do it. I’m not, I’m not asking you or making you, or or strongly suggesting that you do it, It’s up to you. But the story that I share that it’s totally, totally turned my life around and I’m just a regular guy and it totally improved my life. That’s why I’m here sharing the story that you should. There’s nothing to be afraid about. There’s nothing weird about it. It really, really helped me and I’m pretty darn confident it will help you. So I really hope this gives you a little bit of incentive to get going and, and, and get started. If you feel you really need this.

Speaker 1: (27:40)
It’s a life changer for sure. It’s a very sacred plant medicine that’s been used for, um, generations and generations and generations. It’s not new, It’s been around way before you and I, uh, roamed this earth way before. So, um, stick with me. I’m Dr. Dave. This is microdose you. And again, if you could just take a few seconds, I would really appreciate it. This is probably the the best thing you could do to help the show, to help other people because if the show thrives, other people will learn about this. And it’s simple. Just please go in however you’re listening to this. If it’s on Apple Podcast or Spotify or whatever it might be, um, go into the app and give a review, give an honest review. I will say my reviews have been very, very high. Uh, so for some reason you don’t like it.

Speaker 1: (28:29)
Maybe instead of giving a really negative review, get in touch with me and, and we can maybe straighten it out between us instead of going on and giving a negative review. Because again, I’m not saying that because I get a lot of negative reviews. I don’t, it’s in fact most just about every review is extremely positive five star. But you know, you get one or two bad ones and it can really drag you down. So that’s why I’m asking, please be fair and if there’s something that really bothers you or you don’t like about this message me again, I gave my email address earlier. It’s rundrdave at gmail. Uh, the doctor is abbreviated Dr. Run doctor dave gmail.com. I’m here for you and, and I’m really looking forward to opening up this, um, this private group on Facebook. It will be called Microdose u Um, by the time I get this published and out to you, it’s not gonna be up yet, the Facebook group that is, but I am gonna be working on it over the next few weeks and let’s get this going. Let’s get a really, really cool community going cuz I really, I, I really am interested in having you live your best life ever. Okay, Till next time, thanks so much. This is Microdose you and I am Dr. Dave.

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Here is the transcript to today’s episode:

Dr. Dave: (00:00)
I have been doing transcendental meditation twice a day for 20 minutes at a time for one full month. And I’m gonna share with you exactly the changes that I have seen in my body and in my mind and in my life before I do. I just want to welcome you to microdose you. I am Dr. Dave, and on this channel I share with you, um, how microdosing magic mushrooms psilocybin has totally, totally changed my life for the better. So let’s get into the program today. I, yes, I have been, uh, doing TM, doing trans Atal meditation for exactly one month, twice a day, 20 minutes at a time. And I will tell you this, that I have found out that transcendental meditation and TM are both trademarked or copyright terms. And I am not really allowed to use them, but I will share with you, I am not associated with the organization in any way.

Dr. Dave: (00:54)
I’m not a certified instructor. I’ve never taken the instruction from them. I’ve done it from my research and I learned how to do it on my own, which I will share with you. But since I’m not allowed to call it transcendental meditation, let’s call it. I don’t know. Let’s call it just for the sake of today’s show. We’ll call it microdosing meditation. I don’t know if that’s good or bad, but since I’m not allowed to call it TM or transcendental meditation, um, if I’m talking about it or giving instructions on it, we’ll call it microdosing meditation for today. So, um, what have I noticed after one month? And I’m, by the way, I’m still going to continue to do it, but after one month, I think that’s a pretty safe time to share with you the changes I’ve noticed in my body and in my life.

Dr. Dave: (01:36)
And in my mind, I have been extremely calm and my sleep has been really, really good. And not only that, it seems to me like I need less sleep. I just got back from a one week road trip and on the road trip, it was a little bit more difficult since I was doing a lot of things with friends and family and activities. It was a little bit more difficult to get the amount of sleep I normally get, but even getting less sleep, I felt totally rejuvenated and really, really good and awake, um, each day with less sleep. So again, I’ll get into whether I think this was an effective TM or a result or a product of the TM or otherwise. And I’ll share that with you too. I can think super clearly, I’ve been at total 100% peace with myself. I feel like I’ve been more forgiving of other people, more understanding, and the list goes on and on, but those are kind of the main things that I have noticed since I’ve been doing the, uh, transcendental me. Oh, not transcend, I mean, re dosing meditation twice a day for 20 minutes at a time. And again, I’m going to show share with you. It’ll take me just a few minutes. Exactly, exactly how I do it every single day from start to finish. But, um, something I am not sure of. And that is

Dr. Dave: (02:58)
Since I’ve been microdosing, these are the same changes that I’ve noticed with my microdosing. So almost exactly the same. So I can’t really be sure that either the transcendental Medi the microdosing meditation the microdosing meditation has made it better, or whether it’s just a, a, a factor that I’ve been microdosing longer and I’m going through these changes anyway, I’m not positive. Um, but I, from what I’ve heard from what I’ve read, the, um, changes that we notice from microdosing magic mushrooms and from microdosing meditation, um, they’re very, very similar. So I will say for, for those of you that are a little bit reluctant, not sure about microdosing, you’re a little bit worried about using something that is in some areas, not legal, um, doing the microdosing meditation might be a safe and viable alternative for you. So let me share with you exactly how I do it now.

Dr. Dave: (04:06)
Again, I am not a transcendental meditation instructor. I’m not associated with the organization. I’ve never taken one of their courses. So I’ve gathered this just from years of, you know, I look, I grew up in the sixties and seventies, so I knew about TM back then. So I’m taking this from my years and years of hearing about it. Uh, hearing people talk about it, researching, et cetera, here is what I do every single day, twice a day. So I find my so first, the first thing I did was I selected a mantra. A mantra is a word or a sound that, um, you say repeatedly during your meditation, it can be anything, but here’s what I recommend. I recommend that it be two syllables or two words kind of put together, um, because I use the, my mantra in conjunction with my breathing in and out.

Dr. Dave: (04:59)
So when I breathe in during the meditation, I will say to myself, the first word or the first syllable of my mantra, and then as I breathe out and it’s all done through my nose, I will say the second and I will repeat it. So don’t worry. I’ll get, I’ll get back into that a second. So, um, I suggest that you choose a mantra. It could be a word, it could be a word from another language. It could be a made up word. The only thing I’m going to ask you is that it’s not a word that has meaning to you. And the reason for that is let’s say, for example, you, um, use the word pencil as a mantra, as you’re meditating, as you’re saying pencil to yourself for 20 minutes at a time nonstop as you’re breathing, you’re gonna have, at some point, you’re gonna have a, a vision of a pencil. You, it it’s look it’s impossible not to. So you’re gonna be thinking, you’re gonna be saying the word

Dr. Dave: (05:56)
Pencil, but you’ll be thinking about a pencil. That’s why it’s better to have a word that has no real meaning to you. A very common mantra is just simply the Sanskrit phrase, sat Nam. I mean, most people don’t speak San Sanskrit, so they don’t really know what that means if it has a meaning. So if you say soft, no, um, as, and again, that is a possible and very common mantra. Um, also you could pick something that you just make up and it sounds good to you and it resonates with you. I, I don’t think there’s any right or wrong, although in the organization I’ve referred to a little while ago, I think they make a really big deal and have a big ceremony about being assigned a mantra to me. I don’t think that’s that big of a deal. It has to be something that resonates with you that you can remember that you like, that feels good.

Dr. Dave: (06:49)
And I think that’s really about it, but again, make sure it’s something that you, that does not have a true meaning to you in the spirit of microdosing meditation. I do not share my mantra and I would recommend you do not share yours. Keep it very personal. If somebody asks you what yours is, just say, this is very personal to me and I don’t share it. So what I do is I pick a comfortable location, oftentimes on the sofa over there or wherever I could be. And I just sit down, get in a comfortable position. I set my timer to 20 minutes and I normally do not play any music. I just listen to ambient sounds around, but, um, uh, I don’t really play any, any different type of music or anything like that during my meditation. And for 20 minutes, all I do is try my best to clear my mind, but it’s all it’s automatically done when you repeat your mantra.

Dr. Dave: (07:43)
So I will take a deep breath in, not too deep, but I’ll take a breath in, and I’ll say the first part of my mantra, and let’s, let’s use the word pencil, cuz that’s not a good mantra, but I’m using that example. So as I breathe in, I’ll think to myself, pen and breathing out soul pen soul, and I’ll just keep reading in. And again, that’s not my mantra and I do not recommend that as a mantra, but that’s just an example how to do that. Then you just keep doing that and you don’t have to think about it. You don’t have to, like you don’t have to intentionally try to clear your mind because that’s the purpose of the mantra. The mantra does that for you. When you keep repeating something over and over and over, along with breathing, it’s gonna do the work for you.

Dr. Dave: (08:30)
You can even be somebody that does not believe it’s going to work. You can be skeptical. It doesn’t really matter because if you perform this microdosing meditation, as I explained, it will work for you. Then when your timer goes off at 20 minutes, that’s the end, the best times to do it are in the morning. When you wake up in the morning before you really start with your morning activities and in the evening, well, before you go to bed, probably, maybe right after dinner, before you start your evening activities, but there’s no, again, there’s no real right or no wrong, but you do need to do it twice per day, 20 minutes at a time, morning and evening are the best times to do it. You can do it if you’re a passenger in a car, um, don’t do it while you’re driving, but you can do it in situations where, um, as long as you can find a comfortable place to be and have reasonable, quiet, you know, you don’t want to do it in a construction zone.

Dr. Dave: (09:25)
Um, it, or you don’t wanna do it when somebody’s using leaf blowers or it’s super, super loud. That’s probably not gonna be conducive, but as long as reasonably quiet, um, and you can maintain that 20 minutes of breathing and saying your mantra. That’s what microdosing meditation is. I urge you to try it. Um, don’t just try it one time. Don’t just try it for a few days. Try it for at least a month, at least a month. They say it even could take a lot longer to see really, really great results. Um, I’m pretty certain it’s gonna help you quite a bit. It can lower blood pressure. It can absolutely decrease anxiety, but you have to do it in order for it to work. It’s a great adjunct to, um, microdosing magic mushrooms. It absolutely is. I think the two of them go really, really, really well together. Okay. I hope this helps you again. Thanks so much for being here with micro Rudo. You we’ll have more classes in the future. If you have not subscribed yet, make sure you click that subscribe button and enable notifications. I got a lot more stuff coming, coming at you. Talk to you soon, Dr. Dave.

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Many people feel extreme anxiety from the thought of microdosing magic mushrooms. In this show, Dr. Dave sheds some light on how to prevent anxiety from microdosing psilocybin.

Here is the complete transcript to today’s show:

Dr. Dave: (00:00)
Hey there, if you’re hesitating, beginning your microdose journey, because you’ve heard it’s going to bring out all this anxiety and you, and you’re really afraid. It’s gonna make you super anxious. I’m here to help you on this video. Here we go. I’m Dr. Dave, this is not to be taken as medical advice, but I’ve been microdosing and also thrown in some larger doses over a period of, well over a year, 13, 14, 15 months, something like that now. And I’ve heard from so many people lately that they’ve got issues with anxiety, depression, and they really want to try microdosing, but they’ve heard from other people that it has the potential to make you extremely anxious. And for that reason, these people don’t wanna start because they’re afraid that it’s gonna make them so anxious. They can’t do it while I’m here to alleviate your fears. , in the 13, 14, 15, whatever one year plus, , that I’ve been microdosing.

Dr. Dave: (00:53)
I wanted shared with you how many times I’ve had anxiety from silocybin anxiety from microdosing, and I’ve done doses anywhere from a hundred milligrams up to larger than microdose up to maybe two grams. And the nber of times I’ve had anxiety from using psilocybin or magic mushrooms is zero that’s, right? It’s never, ever happened to me now. I realize everybody is different, but I really believe, and I don’t think anybody knows this for sure. So don’t believe everything you hear. I really believe that the reason people become super anxious after microdosing is because it’s all in their mind and they, they, it’s kind of starting an anxiety attack, but it’s not really the, the magic mushrooms. It’s not really the psilocybin is doing. It’s your mind. That’s doing it. I’ll give you a couple examples. , before I started microdosing, I had extreme anxiety. I remember one time I was driving my car.

Dr. Dave: (01:48)
I was at an intersection. It was a red light. I was stopped there. And for some reason, I don’t know what the reason is. I became super anxious. It was an anxiety attack. I didn’t know what to do. It was really, really bad, but was it my car that made me anxious? Was it the actual intersection? Was it other drivers? No, it was my mind. Something was going on in my mind that made me anxious. There was another situation where I was at one of the most peaceful places on the planet. , I was at whole foods. I mean, whole foods is peaceful. And I was, I remember walking over to the checkout line. I had a basket full of groceries. I was going to checkout. And for some reason I became super anxious. Now it was not the whole foods that made me anxious.

Dr. Dave: (02:32)
It was not the cashier. It was not the other people in line. It was me. It was my problem. That’s what caused the anxiety. Nothing at the whole foods caused me to be anxious. So the same thing, we’re using magic mushrooms. It’s when you’re microdosing, think about it. If you start and if you’re super afraid of this, I’m gonna recommend you start with 50 milligrams. It’s a super, super, super low dose. Keep this in mind. There are people that use magic mushrooms. It take 100 times 50 milligrams and, and they survive and they’re, and, and so that, so in other words, a five gram dose would be 100 times larger than what you’re taking as 50 milligrams. It’s not, it’s not gonna make you anxious. It’s inside of you thinking it’s gonna make you anxious, which makes you anxious. If that makes sense. It’s not the mushrooms.

Dr. Dave: (03:23)
A microdose is not going to bring out a 50 grand microdose is not gonna bring out all that anxiety. It’s just not going to now, again, I’m gonna backtrack. I’m gonna say everybody’s different, but from my experience and from what I know, and from what I, the, all the people I’ve talked to over the year that I’ve been doing it, , it just it’s it’s, it’s not, it should not happen with a microdose. So start off small, start off with 50 milligrams. Remember what? I said that when I was driving in my car, or I was at the whole foods, it was not the car. It was not the whole foods that made me anxious. That made me super anxious. It was me. And the same thing is gonna happen. If you go into microdosing and you think it’s gonna make you anxious, and you really believe it, it will.

Dr. Dave: (04:08)
But if you listen to me and know that it’s not, the mushrooms are gonna do it, it’s inside your head. That’s gonna make you anxious. I think that’s gonna help quite a bit. I’m gonna recommend a couple ways to do it again. Keep in mind if you’re starting with 50 milligrams, it is super, super low that I don’t even think that has the capability of making you anxious. And the goal is probably not to stay with 50 milligrams, but it’s a test to show you, to prove to yourself that these magic mushrooms are not going to induce anxiety at a micro dose. They’re just not going to, I’ll have a lot of, some people will disagree with me, but I’m telling you again, over one year over one year of microdosing and taking some larger doses, it has never caused any anxiety in me. And I am one that had a ton of anxiety before I started microdosing, , to make things even better.

Dr. Dave: (05:04)
I’m, I’m going to recommend a couple different scenarios, a couple different possibilities to start while you’re microdosing. Nber one, take the 50 milligrams as a start at home and be in a really relaxing setting. They say set and setting your mindset, which I’m talking to about now. And you’re setting, which where you’re gonna be are the two most important things. And again, keep in mind if, if you feel yourself ever started to get anxious, keep in mind. Dr. Dave said, it’s in your mind. It’s not the mushrooms doing it. And go back to what I’ve said about. They’re not going to make you anxious. So the first way to do it, I recommend is taking the 50 milligrams relaxing around your house, sitting on the sofa, watching some TV and put on something funny. I’ll tell you what I did the very first time I biker do. Cause I didn’t know what to expect either. I, I think I turned on the three Stooges

Dr. Dave: (05:56)
On YouTube. I just did a search for three Stooges and I was there on the sofa, just laughing and laughing is great medicine to alleviate anxiety anyway. So watch something funny. Listen to something funny. If you have a favorite podcast, that’s really funny. Just listen or watch something really funny. And I’m pretty much guaranteeing you. You’re gonna be totally fine. You will be fine. The second possibility is to ingest the 50 milligrams and then a short time later, they take anywhere from 30 minutes to 90 minutes to, to go into to your systems so that if you were gonna feel anxious, that would be the time. But again, you’re not gonna feel anxious. You won’t. So the second scenario is go out and take a walk in nature. I wouldn’t walk around like a crowded city, , because you know, you don’t wanna be around a million people when you’re doing this, but go out on a nature hike, go out in, in, in a park, just relax.

Dr. Dave: (06:50)
And you’re gonna be totally fine. Again, if you get anxious from 50 milligrams, it’s it’s in your mind. So I want you to keep thinking this over and over and over again. That’s why I’m repeating myself over. Cause when you do these, when you do ’em for the first time, I want you to think of this video. Feel free to watch this video over and over and over again, because I’m telling you that 50 milligrams of magic mushrooms are not going to make you anxious unless you think they think they will. Same as when I was driving. Same as when I was at the whole foods, it was something inside of me that did it think of these magic mushrooms as something that’s going to help you. It’s going to alleviate anxiety. That’s why you’re doing this is gonna take care of your anxiety and your depression.

Dr. Dave: (07:36)
It’s not going to make you more anxious. It’s not going to make you more depressed if you really believe that. And by the way, it’s true. If you really believe that, and you watch this video a few times and learn from my experience, you’re gonna be totally fine. I promise you. And again, keep in mind, it’s such a tiny, tiny, tiny dose, even compared to what some people do recreationally it’s minuscule. So once you find that the 50 milligrams is not going to make you anxious and it won’t. Then again, watch one of my previous videos that talks about, , a beginner’s guide to microdosing and it walks you right through how to know exactly what dose is right for you. , I’ll see if I can give you a link right below in the description, because again, these two videos combined are going to help you.

Dr. Dave: (08:25)
They’re gonna prove to you that you’re gonna be totally fine. A micro dose. Again, it’s just that it’s a microdose. It would be TA it would be like taking, you know, somebody has like a, a, a can of beer in front of it’d be taking like a few drops of beer and saying, oh, this is really affecting me. No, it’s not going to affect you. It’s just really not. You’re gonna be totally fine. Take it from me. I’m Dr. Dave, I’m here to help you. I’m here to give you support we’re in this together. You’re fine. Talk to you soon.